Looking beta tester for N52 supercharger tune

Bob@BPC · 04-27-2017, 09:40 AM

Hello All,

We've been getting a lot of emails about doing a aftermarket power adder tune for the N52, if you live in the Raleigh area or willing to leave your car with us for 1 to 2 weeks, we'll do the beta tune for free.

Requirements:

Aftermarket supercharger
Aftermarket header
New spark plugs
Work history on the vehicle
2008 or newer

Please email me direct for more details: webmaster@bimmerperformancecenter.com

Cdutch513 · 04-27-2017, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

Hello All,

We've been getting a lot of emails about doing a aftermarket power adder tune for the N52, if you live in the Raleigh area or willing to leave your car with us for 1 to 2 weeks, we'll do the beta tune for free.

Requirements:

Aftermarket supercharger
Aftermarket header
New spark plugs
Work history on the vehicle
2008 or newer

Please email me direct for more details: webmaster@bimmerperformancecenter.com

Why do you guys have to be east coast!?

John@BPC · 04-28-2017, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cdutch513

Why do you guys have to be east coast!?

We're looking for investors for west coast location #2, want to help?

JK

Hobbs64 · 04-28-2017, 03:24 PM

Hmmm... now there is tempting proposition. A satellite shop in San Diego or LA...lol

W37V · 04-28-2017, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

Hello All,

We've been getting a lot of emails about doing a aftermarket power adder tune for the N52, if you live in the Raleigh area or willing to leave your car with us for 1 to 2 weeks, we'll do the beta tune for free.

Requirements:

Aftermarket supercharger
Aftermarket header
New spark plugs
Work history on the vehicle
2008 or newer

Please email me direct for more details: webmaster@bimmerperformancecenter.com

Just today this crossed my mind. Since turbo project is out, the other alternative would be...

Get ESS supercharger, AA headers, your BOV from turbo project, and your tune.

If I could get my hand on a cheap SC, I would def do it.

Btw. Andrew from Active (AA), mentioned that they developed a supercharger, but had issue with releasing boost and didn't know how to resolve it since N52 is almost vacuum less engine. It seems like you may have figured out a solution to the blow off valve issue with your turbo project. You could develop something together.

Or heck, it might be simpler for you to get a SC and see what it can do, develop a kit, and sell it. From one of the posts, ESS mentioned that they sold 100+ of these kits. So... you might have a business case.

E91 M Sport · 04-29-2017, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by W37V

Just today this crossed my mind. Since turbo project is out, the other alternative would be...

Get ESS supercharger, AA headers, your BOV from turbo project, and your tune.

If I could get my hand on a cheap SC, I would def do it.

Btw. Andrew from Active (AA), mentioned that they developed a supercharger, but had issue with releasing boost and didn't know how to resolve it since N52 is almost vacuum less engine. It seems like you may have figured out a solution to the blow off valve issue with your turbo project. You could develop something together.

Or heck, it might be simpler for you to get a SC and see what it can do, develop a kit, and sell it. From one of the posts, ESS mentioned that they sold 100+ of these kits. So... you might have a business case.

And when BPC does this they should offer one of the noisy head units as an option. I like the way the centrifugal blowers sound.

Eagle1oh7 · 04-29-2017, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by W37V

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

Hello All,

We've been getting a lot of emails about doing a aftermarket power adder tune for the N52, if you live in the Raleigh area or willing to leave your car with us for 1 to 2 weeks, we'll do the beta tune for free.

Requirements:

Aftermarket supercharger
Aftermarket header
New spark plugs
Work history on the vehicle
2008 or newer

Please email me direct for more details: webmaster@bimmerperformancecenter.com

Just today this crossed my mind. Since turbo project is out, the other alternative would be...

Get ESS supercharger, AA headers, your BOV from turbo project, and your tune.

If I could get my hand on a cheap SC, I would def do it.

Btw. Andrew from Active (AA), mentioned that they developed a supercharger, but had issue with releasing boost and didn't know how to resolve it since N52 is almost vacuum less engine. It seems like you may have figured out a solution to the blow off valve issue with your turbo project. You could develop something together.

Or heck, it might be simpler for you to get a SC and see what it can do, develop a kit, and sell it. From one of the posts, ESS mentioned that they sold 100+ of these kits. So... you might have a business case.

I still find it hard to believe that they sold 100+ kits...

CobraMarty · 04-29-2017, 07:23 PM

The biggest problem I see with the ESS N52 E9x Vortech supercharger kit is the lack of an intercooler.

OK yeah the tune can be better and the use of headers in the tune would be nice. But beyond that the problem is the high IATs.

If you really want to make it work and be better, Make a new intake manifold with a built in intercooler, like by VF for the E46 M3 kit of theirs. Would be easy enough and don't even need to use/keep the throttle body, leave it out and tune it for no TB.

Eagle1oh7 · 04-29-2017, 10:30 PM

It would be awesome to make it work with the N51, despite the minor differences in hardware the software side would be the main challenge.

JayTriggy14 · 04-30-2017, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Eagle1oh7

It would be awesome to make it work with the N51, despite the minor differences in hardware the software side would be the main challenge.

True. I have full confidence in BPC though, they are doing amazing things with the N52/51 motors!

justin1180 · 05-02-2017, 08:44 AM

damn! I was about to hop all over this but don't have headers installed since ESS won't support the tune for anything but factory intake and headers.

Misty · 05-02-2017, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by justin1180

damn! I was about to hop all over this but don't have headers installed since ESS won't support the tune for anything but factory intake and headers.

dew it

bsmoov · 05-02-2017, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by justin1180

damn! I was about to hop all over this but don't have headers installed since ESS won't support the tune for anything but factory intake and headers.

Buy used headers and have them install it and tune it.

What's the problem? You'll have a beast of a n52 SC'ed especially in the right hands. You saw how they unleashed the n52 turbo, just saying...

Torgus · 05-02-2017, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CobraMarty

The biggest problem I see with the ESS N52 E9x Vortech supercharger kit is the lack of an intercooler.

OK yeah the tune can be better and the use of headers in the tune would be nice. But beyond that the problem is the high IATs.

If you really want to make it work and be better, Make a new intake manifold with a built in intercooler, like by VF for the E46 M3 kit of theirs. Would be easy enough and don't even need to use/keep the throttle body, leave it out and tune it for no TB.

Meth would be the easiest way to combat high AITs and add octane which is a win win for FI. Much easier and less expensive than a custom IM with a build in IC as that IC would have to be water cooled which makes EVERYTHING more complicated and expensive. Just saying that is the route I would go/suggest. Water also can only be cooled to ambient temp unless you get creative while the Meth will be consistent.

Mavus · 05-02-2017, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by justin1180

damn! I was about to hop all over this but don't have headers installed since ESS won't support the tune for anything but factory intake and headers.

Can BPC get and istl headers for testing and then return it to original configuration or if they work keep them.

I was interested in sc but only with headers. I think the gains would be much higher but ESS did not want to continue tuning it to resolve issues. BPC most likely knows N52 better than any other tuner after turbo kit testing.

justin1180 · 05-02-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

Can BPC get and istl headers for testing and then return it to original configuration or if they work keep them.

I was interested in sc but only with headers. I think the gains would be much higher but ESS did not want to continue tuning it to resolve issues. BPC most likely knows N52 better than any other tuner after turbo kit testing.

you're definitely right about that. I think i'm the closest person to them that has this kit installed. and I live in Kansas City.

Mavus · 05-02-2017, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by justin1180

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth 330i

Can BPC get and istl headers for testing and then return it to original configuration or if they work keep them.

I was interested in sc but only with headers. I think the gains would be much higher but ESS did not want to continue tuning it to resolve issues. BPC most likely knows N52 better than any other tuner after turbo kit testing.

you're definitely right about that. I think i'm the closest person to them that has this kit installed. and I live in Kansas City.

sounds like a great vacation and a fun road trip back home

Zajac1 · 05-02-2017, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by justin1180

you're definitely right about that. I think i'm the closest person to them that has this kit installed. and I live in Kansas City.

Have fun !

6ixSpd · 07-19-2018, 07:49 AM

Bumping this for more information. Did you guys successfully tune a ESS supercharged N52?

Taskmaster · 07-19-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Bumping this for more information. Did you guys successfully tune a ESS supercharged N52?

Yes.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1422205

6ixSpd · 07-19-2018, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Taskmaster

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Originally Posted by 6ixSpd

Bumping this for more information. Did you guys successfully tune a ESS supercharged N52?

Yes.

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1422205

Nice!! That's without headers or MILVs too. Interesting...

hassmaschine · 07-19-2018, 10:24 PM

The ESS tune is so bad for the supercharged M54B30 with MS45 its nearly undriveable. No surprise they couldnt tune MSV70 either, which is pretty much the same. Too bad because the kit is pretty nice otherwise..

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CobraMarty Major 619 Rep 1,402 Posts Drives: 2007 328xi e90 + e92 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: BimmerMILVs.com iTrader: (7)	The biggest problem I see with the ESS N52 E9x Vortech supercharger kit is the lack of an intercooler. OK yeah the tune can be better and the use of headers in the tune would be nice. But beyond that the problem is the high IATs. If you really want to make it work and be better, Make a new intake manifold with a built in intercooler, like by VF for the E46 M3 kit of theirs. Would be easy enough and don't even need to use/keep the throttle body, leave it out and tune it for no TB.
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justin1180 Enlisted Member 25 Rep 31 Posts Drives: 2007 328i Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Overland Park, KS iTrader: (0)	damn! I was about to hop all over this but don't have headers installed since ESS won't support the tune for anything but factory intake and headers.
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hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	The ESS tune is so bad for the supercharged M54B30 with MS45 its nearly undriveable. No surprise they couldnt tune MSV70 either, which is pretty much the same. Too bad because the kit is pretty nice otherwise..
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