[- Paul -]

Didn't take long eh?

[Shoegazer]

someone must need some quick cash to fix their moats and duck houses!

No exactly unexpected, not much left for them to sell but they'll get rid of what they can, typical Tory policy, instead of having something that gives them £300-400M per year they want the quick cash injection now and can get away with it by singing the tired old song about the last government leaving them with no money!

[Steve A]

Fu----king----told---you----so----

Wannnnnnnkerssssssssss

[pjs]

The rozzers could do a better job even after 25% budget cuts if they were freed from the red tape and allowed to use some common sense.

The royal mail are lazy bastards (most of them anyway), so privatisation should get them to sort their act out.

[Steve A]

Originally Posted by pjs

The rozzers could do a better job even after 25% budget cuts if they were freed from the red tape and allowed to use some common sense.

The royal mail are lazy bastards (most of them anyway), so privatisation should get them to sort their act out.

better management, keep money ours. simple.

[Boyd1963]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

Didn't take long eh?

Well I never voted for them.

[toxicnerve]

Hang on.

The cuts were inevitable. How else is the deficit going to be tackled? MPs and public sector workers are not going to be willing to take a 5-10% pay cut so cuts are the only answer.

This is only the start and it would have happened ( and will continue to happen) regardless of which party (or parties) are in power.

The cuts to the police are not ideal but I think over the next couple of years there will not be a department or a service that is left untouched.

As for the sell off of Royal Mail...that's a tricky one. IMO they're all feckless wankers but the postal service should be kept as a public entity to prevent the private sector from taking over, over charging/fixing prices in the name of profits for shareholders. The RM just needs a massive overhaul and reform of working practices. People undoubtedly need to be laid off but the unions will never allow it and strike the country to a stand still.

When it does get privatised, what do they think is going to happen to their jobs anyway?

Next up...

Tax hikes all round.

[peterg1965]

TheTories are doing what every Tory Govt has to do when taking over from the Socialists lefty twats - clean up the mess and rein in the largesse of a unsustainable and unrealistic soclialist spending bonanza and an engorged State.

They should sell off the Post Office, Tote, Met Office and the Banks (to make a big profit) and anything else that they can. It is realistic to reduce public spending across the board because current levels are not sustainable. Every Govt department is grossly inefficient, including the Police.

I look forward to seeing the out of touch, anachronistic Trade Unions bleating on and on and on....... but there is another modern phenomona, the hypocrisy of theTrade Union barons (Brothers) getting paid as much as Govt Ministers.

[prt71]

Originally Posted by peterg1965

TheTories are doing what every Tory Govt has to do when taking over from the Socialists lefty twats - clean up the mess and rein in the largesse of a unsustainable and unrealistic soclialist spending bonanza and an engorged State.

They should sell off the Post Office, Tote, Met Office and the Banks (to make a big profit) and anything else that they can. It is realistic to reduce public spending across the board because current levels are not sustainable. Every Govt department is grossly inefficient, including the Police.

I look forward to seeing the out of touch, anachronistic Trade Unions bleating on and on and on....... but there is another modern phenomona, the hypocrisy of theTrade Union barons (Brothers) getting paid as much as Govt Ministers.

Given a choice I would be infinitely happier with Trade Union barons/brothers(!) receiving more than Government Ministers.

[Shoegazer]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Hang on.

When it does get privatised, what do they think is going to happen to their jobs anyway?

There will be a big battle with the unions which will eventually lead to the unions being a lot weaker, terms and conditions will change more rapidly than currently, the "lazy bastards" (you know, the ones who get to work at 2am, sort all of your post into order for their delivery, load themselves up like cart horses, cycle to the other side of town, walk round a 2-3km delivery, up and down staircases etc, return to the office, pick up another load because they have to cover the poor sod that was burnt out and hasn't been replaced, go home for a few hours break before starting again), although they've been doing the job well for all of their working lives will decide that's enough or will be forced out for not doing what the money grabbing leaders want for next to no money.

But it won't matter because there will be thousands unemployed so they can come and do the job (badly) for a while, until they get caught steeling or are really too lazy to do the job and dump all of your mail in a ditch (yes it happens occasionally now but just wait)

But at least a few businessmen will have become rich out of it all!!!

[JLR1969]

Originally Posted by peterg1965

TheTories are doing what every Tory Govt has to do when taking over from the Socialists lefty twats - clean up the mess and rein in the largesse of a unsustainable and unrealistic soclialist spending bonanza and an engorged State.

They should sell off the Post Office, Tote, Met Office and the Banks (to make a big profit) and anything else that they can. It is realistic to reduce public spending across the board because current levels are not sustainable. Every Govt department is grossly inefficient, including the Police.

I look forward to seeing the out of touch, anachronistic Trade Unions bleating on and on and on....... but there is another modern phenomona, the hypocrisy of theTrade Union barons (Brothers) getting paid as much as Govt Ministers.

+1

Unions are a relic of the 70s, they don't help anyone except themselves. PO are a bunch of idle twats, they would not last 5 mins in the private sector.

Conservative are only clearing up after that mess Labour made. I voted Conservative and have no issue paying more taxes providing they get us out of the mess we are in.

Shame about the police force but in every sector their is dead wood taking the piss, they need a good spring clean and a helping hand to me more effective.

[prt71]

Originally Posted by JLR1969

+1

Unions are a relic of the 70s, they don't help anyone except themselves. PO are a bunch of idle twats, they would not last 5 mins in the private sector.

Conservative are only clearing up after that mess Labour made. I voted Conservative and have no issue paying more taxes providing they get us out of the mess we are in.

Shame about the police force but in every sector their is dead wood taking the piss, they need a good spring clean and a helping hand to me more effective.

I'm sorry but the sweeping generalisation in calling the entire post office "idle twats" makes my blood boil.

[willhollin]

Originally Posted by prt71

I'm sorry but the sweeping generalisation in calling the entire post office "idle twats" makes my blood boil.

I agree, Postman Pat does a sterling job.

[toxicnerve]

Originally Posted by Shoegazer

There will be a big battle with the unions which will eventually lead to the unions being a lot weaker, terms and conditions will change more rapidly than currently, the "lazy bastards" (you know, the ones who get to work at 2am, sort all of your post into order for their delivery, load themselves up like cart horses, cycle to the other side of town, walk round a 2-3km delivery, up and down staircases etc, return to the office, pick up another load because they have to cover the poor sod that was burnt out and hasn't been replaced, go home for a few hours break before starting again), although they've been doing the job well for all of their working lives will decide that's enough or will be forced out for not doing what the money grabbing leaders want for next to no money.

Thanks for the laugh.

[prt71]

Originally Posted by willhollin

I agree, Postman Pat does a sterling job.

[prt71]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Thanks for the laugh.

You obviously know better?

[Steve A]

there are a lot of very clever people on here who are thick as fuck.

[Shoegazer]

Originally Posted by Steve A

there are a lot of very clever people on here who are think as fuck.

[prt71]

Originally Posted by Steve A

there are a lot of very clever people on here who are think as fuck.

[- Paul -]

Originally Posted by toxicnerve

IMO they're all feckless wankers .

Originally Posted by JLR1969

+1

PO are a bunch of idle twats, they would not last 5 mins in the private sector.

.

No need for that and I for one take personal offence. Have either of you worked for the Royal Mail?

Just what are you basing your sweeping generalisations on exactly??

[makammo]

- 'Selling off the banks/met office to make a big profit' isn't feasible now, and won't be for years. Regardless of the fact the UKFI Ltd. may have broken even on their 'bail-out' share purchase, offloading without boring you of the economics of it isn't an option.

- I am 100% for privatisation of the Royal Mail. I almost punched my TV screen when the CWU Leader was spouting about privatisation being "bad for the industry", "bad for the economy", and "nobody wants it". I reserve my special union man on sight beating for Bob Crowe if I ever happen to see him though.

- In regards to the conservatives 'cleaning up the mess labour made', it's a fairly expected blanket comment which a lot of people like to throw around now.

I do find it rather ironic that the portion of wealthy upper middle class conservatives hold labour and her supporters with such disdain, when were it not for labour initiatives (or lack thereof) over the last 10 years some fairly questionable (but VERY rewarding) business practices which they take for granted would otherwise not have been possible.

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by - Paul -

No need for that and I for one take personal offence. Have either of you worked for the Royal Mail?

Just what are you basing your sweeping generalisations on exactly??

I come with my peace pipe!

As with any organisation, I guess there are many more decent people than bad in the Royal Mail. My perception is that, rather like the Fire Brigade and other Public sector bodies, there is a reluctance (voiced by the Unions and others) to accept modern, efficient working practicies, this has been largely tolerated by the previous Labour Government but the time has now come to address it. I even saw Vince Cable talking about selling off the majority of the RM last night, that must say something.

There is also unfinished business between the Tories and the Unions, I look forward to the Unions' power being further curbed over the next few years. Why should a few gobby (overpaid, inarticulate) Union Officials coupled with the power of intimidation of the workforce hold the Bristish Public to ransom, I am thinking here of BA Trolly Dolly Strikes, London Underground, Royal Mail, Fire Brigade etc.

I work for an organisation, so does my wife, which is not permitted to strike. I do not feel I am taken for a ride and abused by the Govt because of this.