MHD Burble Mod Dilemma

9krpmrx8 · 10-31-2017, 09:36 AM

Well for the N54 I think it was a little over two years ago. But he is probably referring to the burble on the stock 335is tune.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 10-31-2017, 09:44 AM

Think he meant that the 335is already has burbles and therefore years of usage.

boostE92d · 11-02-2017, 06:31 PM

My car burbles stock you nimrods. MHD has been out for years. The 335 isn't very reliable if you leave it stock, much less if you turn up the wick. Don't modify it and expect better results than if you left it alone. You guys are goofballs to say the least. Lol

9krpmrx8 · 11-03-2017, 09:50 AM

Well, I agree on the burbles not being detrimental to the car. But my 2011 335i has around 86k on it now and I haven't had anything fail except the coolant reservoir.

Nick.bmw · 08-14-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by maddmatth

Been running PPK and then MHD with burble for about 2 years by now. No smoking issues here. Car is now catless and still no smoke...
I'm N55 by the way.

Which year is your n55 ?
I did a custom mhd tune with the burble feature but it doesn’t pop like the ppk did.
Did it time to get louder ?

9krpmrx8 · 08-15-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick.bmw

Which year is your n55 ?
I did a custom mhd tune with the burble feature but it doesn’t pop like the ppk did.
Did it time to get louder ?

You can adjust the "aggressiveness" of the burble in MHD in the Beta version and it can be made stupid loud, not sure when it will release on the normal version. I have mine set to soft and it is a tad more aggressive than it was on the PPK tune.

Drifter2090 · 08-15-2018, 09:20 AM

I had mine turned on on aggressive for a long time, earlier this year I turned it off and the difference in driving was big. Deceleration was much smoother and overall shifting was smoother with less drive train vibrations.

I tried it again a few weeks ago and noticed "hard" is the most aggressive you can go now, so they removed the setting above that. Instantly noticed the deceleration bog and after keeping it for a few days, noticed my oil level drop. My oil level never dropped with the burble off.

Turned it off again and topped up the oil, its been at the same level for a few weeks.

9krpmrx8 · 08-15-2018, 09:35 AM

That makes no damn sense what so ever.

NoGuru · 08-15-2018, 10:22 AM

Burbble defiantly makes no difference on how my car performs. It will not hurt anything.
All manufactures have a car in there fleet that has it built in.

9krpmrx8 · 08-15-2018, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NoGuru

Burbble defiantly makes no difference on how my car performs. It will not hurt anything.
All manufactures have a car in there fleet that has it built in.

You should hear my bosses new bone stock AMG GLE, puts mine to shame in the burble department.

rsyed07 · 08-15-2018, 10:42 AM

Same, I have 1.3 second duration for regular driving and 1.5 secs with sport under medium. No oil issues. I have new downpipes on the way so it should be a bit louder once installed.

Drifter2090 · 08-15-2018, 11:04 AM

Yeah it doesn't make any sense but that's what I've experienced. I have cat-less DP's too

9krpmrx8 · 08-15-2018, 11:05 AM

I mean mechanically it makes no sense for overrun (burble) to effect the oil level,

. It's not magic. And I have no clue what "deceleration bog" is,

Drifter2090 · 08-15-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8

I mean mechanically it makes no sense for overrun (burble) to effect the oil level,

. It's not magic. And I have no clue what "deceleration bog" is,

When you let off the throttle the car kind of hangs, don't really know how to explain it

hassmaschine · 08-15-2018, 09:25 PM

Burble tunes are the second dumbest tuning mod ever - just behind "tuning" the fake exhaust noises on newer BMWs.

9krpmrx8 · 08-16-2018, 10:19 AM

Yeah it is dumb but it sounds cool and with an auto it can be loud when I want to be and quite when I want it to be.

catcher22 · 08-16-2018, 06:12 PM

only if there were a way to make it "permanently burble"

i kid i kid

Indyeah · 08-16-2018, 06:34 PM

Burble is the engine throwing unburnt fuel into the exhaust. It combusts in the hot pipes and makes a cool sound. Some will tell you it could combust in the turbos and damage them. The more relevant question here is how well implemented is the MHD mod. People keep bringing up OEMs that do factory burble but thats not the same as modifying a car to burble. If you tried it both ways and you think your car runs better without it why would you take the word of someone on the internet over what you can actually experience for yourself?

9krpmrx8 · 08-17-2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Indyeah

Burble is the engine throwing unburnt fuel into the exhaust. It combusts in the hot pipes and makes a cool sound. Some will tell you it could combust in the turbos and damage them. The more relevant question here is how well implemented is the MHD mod. People keep bringing up OEMs that do factory burble but thats not the same as modifying a car to burble. If you tried it both ways and you think your car runs better without it why would you take the word of someone on the internet over what you can actually experience for yourself?

Justin from Twisted and Marshal (MHD himself) have explained this, they use the same tables as the PPK. I assume MHD's programming just adjusts that table but I am no programmer. But they have gone over this and I trust Justin and Marshal.

TheMidnightNarwhal · 10-07-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Burble tunes are the second dumbest tuning mod ever - just behind "tuning" the fake exhaust noises on newer BMWs.

Nah it's amazing! Everyone looks at me and it sounds so good

Antetokounmpo · 10-07-2018, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Quote:

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Burble tunes are the second dumbest tuning mod ever - just behind "tuning" the fake exhaust noises on newer BMWs.

Nah it's amazing! Everyone looks at me and it sounds so good

They look at you because they think your car is broken lmao

TheMidnightNarwhal · 10-08-2018, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Antetokounmpo

They look at you because they think your car is broken lmao

Maybe to regular people, but everyone who speaks up with me about it think it sounds awesome.

10-31-2017, 09:36 AM	#23
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Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,212 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	Think he meant that the 335is already has burbles and therefore years of usage.
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boostE92d Private First Class 61 Rep 174 Posts Drives: 12' 335is Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Houston,TX iTrader: (0)	My car burbles stock you nimrods. MHD has been out for years. The 335 isn't very reliable if you leave it stock, much less if you turn up the wick. Don't modify it and expect better results than if you left it alone. You guys are goofballs to say the least. Lol
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9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,684 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	Well, I agree on the burbles not being detrimental to the car. But my 2011 335i has around 86k on it now and I haven't had anything fail except the coolant reservoir.
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Drifter2090 Colonel 908 Rep 2,091 Posts Drives: E90 M3 \| E92 335i \| E90 335d Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (1)	I had mine turned on on aggressive for a long time, earlier this year I turned it off and the difference in driving was big. Deceleration was much smoother and overall shifting was smoother with less drive train vibrations. I tried it again a few weeks ago and noticed "hard" is the most aggressive you can go now, so they removed the setting above that. Instantly noticed the deceleration bog and after keeping it for a few days, noticed my oil level drop. My oil level never dropped with the burble off. Turned it off again and topped up the oil, its been at the same level for a few weeks. __________________ MGM F82 M4 DCT / MPerformance / Swift / CSF / IND / Turner / BimmerWorld BSM F87 M2 6MT / Fabspeed / MPerformance / Turner / AutoID - SOLD JB-NB E92 M3 6MT / IND / RTD / Alpine / KW / ActiveAutowerke / 360Carbon - SOLD SS2-FR E90 M3 6MT / IND / AFE / ActiveAutowerke - SOLD AW-FR E90 M3 DCT / ACM / IND / AutoTecknic / K&N / H&R / Bilstein - SOLD
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08-15-2018, 10:42 AM	#33
rsyed07 Captain 175 Rep 595 Posts Drives: E46 330i, E92 13' 335is Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Central FL iTrader: (0)	Same, I have 1.3 second duration for regular driving and 1.5 secs with sport under medium. No oil issues. I have new downpipes on the way so it should be a bit louder once installed.
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Drifter2090 Colonel 908 Rep 2,091 Posts Drives: E90 M3 \| E92 335i \| E90 335d Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (1)	Yeah it doesn't make any sense but that's what I've experienced. I have cat-less DP's too __________________ MGM F82 M4 DCT / MPerformance / Swift / CSF / IND / Turner / BimmerWorld BSM F87 M2 6MT / Fabspeed / MPerformance / Turner / AutoID - SOLD JB-NB E92 M3 6MT / IND / RTD / Alpine / KW / ActiveAutowerke / 360Carbon - SOLD SS2-FR E90 M3 6MT / IND / AFE / ActiveAutowerke - SOLD AW-FR E90 M3 DCT / ACM / IND / AutoTecknic / K&N / H&R / Bilstein - SOLD
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9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,684 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	I mean mechanically it makes no sense for overrun (burble) to effect the oil level, . It's not magic. And I have no clue what "deceleration bog" is, __________________ 2011 335i, FBO, N55+ Turbo, full E85, S55 intercooler, etc. 2015 X5 35i Xdrive
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hassmaschine Major General 3965 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Burble tunes are the second dumbest tuning mod ever - just behind "tuning" the fake exhaust noises on newer BMWs.
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9krpmrx8 Clean is the new cool, keep it that way. 808 Rep 1,684 Posts Drives: 11' Alpine White 335i Sedan Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	Yeah it is dumb but it sounds cool and with an auto it can be loud when I want to be and quite when I want it to be. __________________ 2011 335i, FBO, N55+ Turbo, full E85, S55 intercooler, etc. 2015 X5 35i Xdrive
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Indyeah First Lieutenant 141 Rep 374 Posts Drives: E92 328i 6MT SGM Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Phoenix AZ iTrader: (0)	Burble is the engine throwing unburnt fuel into the exhaust. It combusts in the hot pipes and makes a cool sound. Some will tell you it could combust in the turbos and damage them. The more relevant question here is how well implemented is the MHD mod. People keep bringing up OEMs that do factory burble but thats not the same as modifying a car to burble. If you tried it both ways and you think your car runs better without it why would you take the word of someone on the internet over what you can actually experience for yourself? __________________ BMW Performance Exhaust - 3 Stage Intake Manifold - Active Autowerke Headers & Stage 2 Tune - ST X Coilovers
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