[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by Persian Whisperjet

Does anyone know if you can activate a pump purge using RHEINGOLD?

what do you mean by pump purge?

[lnxguy]

Originally Posted by Hockey13

what do you mean by pump purge?

I'm guessing activating the lift pump to fill the fuel filter.

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by Persian Whisperjet

Does anyone know if you can activate a pump purge using RHEINGOLD?

Just press your start button a few times without starting. It'll prime the system. If you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the pump kick on and off.

[dmanb2b]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Just press your start button a few times without starting. It'll crime the system. If you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the pump kick on and off.

Sleeper, do you mean pressing the start button without depressing brake pedal or with foot on brake pedal and giving it a short crank before the motor starts?

[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Just press your start button a few times without starting. It'll crime the system. If you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the pump kick on and off.

I thought the consensus was that does not work. I know on my '11 it does not. Temporaptor and I have a video floating around on how to change the fuel filter and properly prime using edibas toolset32 however it's not rehingold

[temporaptor]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Just press your start button a few times without starting. It'll crime the system. If you listen carefully, you should be able to hear the pump kick on and off.

That doesn't work.

[temporaptor]

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=90

Video of how to do it is back on page 5

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by temporaptor

That doesn't work.

It absolutely works. You might have to open the door. I have primed my fuel system in my 09 335d and 10 35d this way.

You can here the pump activate. Remove your rear seat and try for yourself.

I just went through hell troubleshooting HPFP issues, I promise you, unlocking, opening the door, pressing the start button, and repeating will kick the pump on.

[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

It absolutely works. You might have to open the door. I have primed my fuel system in my 09 335d and 10 35d this way.

You can here the pump activate. Remove your rear seat and try for yourself.

I just went through hell troubleshooting HPFP issues, I promise you, unlocking, opening the door, pressing the start button, and repeating will kick the pump on.

how long time wise is the pump activated for your way?

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by Hockey13

how long time wise is the pump activated for your way?

Seconds. You can hear it activate and turn off. Remove your rear seat if you can't hear it. Do it a few times and go from there.

I've literally swapped Fuel pumps, rail pressure sensors and multiple fuel filters in both of my diesel BMWs.

[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Seconds. You can hear it activate and turn off. Remove your rear seat if you can't hear it. Do it a few times snd go from there.

I've literally swapped Fuel pumps, rail pressure de sits and multiple fuel filters in both of my diesel BMWs.

using the program, it runs for 60sec. iirc, and it takes me ~3x to stop hearing any air. so unless your running it that much I'd say it's not removing all of the air. iirc most air comes out the 2nd cycle.

[ninja_zx11]

Originally Posted by Persian Whisperjet

Does anyone know if you can activate a pump purge using RHEINGOLD?

Yes you can purge air using Rhiengold and it works!! There is a function in Rheingold to activate the fuel pump.I think it is the easiest way to purge air if you have a working Rheingold.

[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by ninja_zx11

Yes you can purge air using Rhiengold and it works!! There is a function in Rheingold to activate the fuel pump.I think it is the easiest way to purge air if you have a working Rheingold.

next time I replace mine I'll look in rehingold for it.

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by Hockey13

using the program, it runs for 60sec. iirc, and it takes me ~3x to stop hearing any air. so unless your running it that much I'd say it's not removing all of the air. iirc most air comes out the 2nd cycle.

How do you hear air?

[temporaptor]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

It absolutely works. You might have to open the door. I have primed my fuel system in my 09 335d and 10 35d this way.

You can here the pump activate. Remove your rear seat and try for yourself.

I just went through hell troubleshooting HPFP issues, I promise you, unlocking, opening the door, pressing the start button, and repeating will kick the pump on.

I think your proving my point for purging the air out with the proper method. Having issues with a HPFP and posting the wrong info about how to purge the lines seems like a disservice to others.


2011 m sport doesn't run the pump with door open or closed. (It does when cranking)
The video I posted does with edibas. No need to remove the back seat either. You can hear the pump.

[Hockey13]

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

How do you hear air?

you can hear clear as day when the pump is activated without going under the car or removing seats or anything. same as hearing the air. sounds like air in a line lol cant thimk of a si gle word to describe it.. next time I change mine I'll set the camera to record the sound.
below is the link on how to use edibas to do it...

[Hockey13]

how many miles do you have that you had issues with your hpfp? year? mods? millage?

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by temporaptor

I think your proving my point for purging the air out with the proper method. Having issues with a HPFP and posting the wrong info about how to purge the lines seems like a disservice to others.


2011 m sport doesn't run the pump with door open or closed. (It does when cranking)
The video I posted does with edibas. No need to remove the back seat either. You can hear the pump.

Proving your point, dude, I purchased my 335d with a 145k miles, so if you're eluding that HPFP failure has anything to do with my improper purging, get a grip. Weird how I've put 80k (175k total) on my 35d incorrectly purging the same way... so what now?

If you read my post, I clearly said if you can't hear it, remove the seat.

Since you're right, explain this... 335d with ignition on, the pump turned on and diesel fuel came out of the loosened fuel injector line, this was WITHOUT cranking the engine. I'll wait for your guidance on how this anomaly took place, since you're stating it can't.

This is my experience with my 09. If I were home, I'd take a video.

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by Hockey13

how many miles do you have that you had issues with your hpfp? year? mods? millage?

The car has 155k now, I purchased with 145k.

If you read my thread, you'd see the maintenance history was far from ideal. I immediately tuned, deleted and have been running the car very hard for a few thousand miles. Suggesting priming the fuel system had anything to do with HPFP failure is simply ignorant, especially considering the failure happened immediately after raising IQ, which puts additional demand on the HPFP and the car was making over 400whp.

My car is an early model, maybe it's different. Not sure.

Tranny failed after less than 1k miles of ownership, as did the power steering pump. I guess that's from incorrectly priming the fuel system too.

Best of luck to you all, you have it figured out. I will post a video, unfotunetly it won't be for a while.

[temporaptor]

I'm not doubting what your saying, just that a 2011 m sport did not. What software version are you running? (I-level) There are also more then one way to do things, one might get you by. But why not use the proper way when it is sooo easy to do.
A properly maintained car should last longer then what your saying. Maybe you got a lemon, maybe your maintenance wasn't up to par? A few people are making big power without HPFP issues as well.

[TDIwyse]

Not wanting to start a fight over this, but ... the start stop button does not initiate the in take pump and does not prime the filter on my '11 335d.

Here's a picture of my car on a lift with the fuel filter draining into a gallon container. I tested the start/stop button and there was no flow (except the draining of what was in the line).

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...58&postcount=1

And another post describing the start/stop button not working, and how I use the Bav Tech tool to initiate the low pressure pump. Which does push fuel through the system. I use it to flush the filters (~1/2 to 1 gallon worth). When connecting the filter back up and initiating the low pressure pump, the sound one hears when doing this is quite noticeable, and gurgling sounds can be heard up by the HPFP as air/fuel is getting pushed through the system.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=27

After a proper priming of the system, the car should start up immediately, and the HPFP does not run without fuel lubricating the components.

Running the pump dry is about the worst thing one can do to their HPFP. Even for a brief time it can cause durability issues...

https://www.arb.ca.gov/fuels/gasolin...22003bosch.pdf

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by temporaptor

I'm not doubting what your saying, just that a 2011 m sport did not. What software version are you running? (I-level) There are also more then one way to do things, one might get you by. But why not use the proper way when it is sooo easy to do.
A properly maintained car should last longer then what your saying. Maybe you got a lemon, maybe your maintenance wasn't up to par? A few people are making big power without HPFP issues as well.

No, you absolutely did doubt it and then continued to insinuate a failed component was due to fuel system prime...

My maintenance... really?

Please find me 1 other 335d trapping over 110 with more than 155k miles. Hell, I'll settle for a tuned 335d with more than 155k miles. Please, show me all these high mile, highly modified examples...

Weird, my 35d has 175k... please school me on proper maintenance.