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      07-04-2015, 05:59 AM   #1
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Bilstein B12

Hello all, hope all are well!!

After noticing an oil patch on my drive under the bonnet area, I jacked my E92 330i up; noticed that my drivers side shock is leaking, 54k miles on the clock. So it's time to upgrade!

I have done some research and as much as I like the idea coilovers, I don't think that I can justify spending mega money.

So I'm thinking the Bilstein B12 kit, with the pro springs. I think I'd replace the control arms with the E92 M3 ones for a complete package. (Hopefully eradicate some of the understeer!)

My confusion is, I can buy the kit from Demon Tweeks for £728... OR I can buy it from German eBay through a company called "Tuning Expert". They are a powerseller with over 4000 sales (99.8% feedback) for EUR 645,27 (£470).
(http://www.ebay.de/itm/Eibach-Bilste...d=bvizzzzzzOkz)

Is this a wise move?

It says VAT included, but I don't want to get stung with import duty/tax. Or will the tax have been paid due to it being an EU country?

If anyone can recommend the best place to order these from, or any other useful info that would be a great help.

Cheers, Jack
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      07-04-2015, 06:13 AM   #2
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Nothing else to pay when buying from Germany. What you see is that you pay. + postage.

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      07-04-2015, 06:31 AM   #3
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for a lil more get the b14 kit!
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      07-04-2015, 09:21 AM   #4
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Yeah. I have seen the 14s for E800. The weak Euro is making these seem like a real steel.

http://m.ebay.de/itm/331512067196?nav=SEARCH

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      07-04-2015, 02:34 PM   #5
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Are these suitable for 330d or are the spring rates different being a heavier car?. Is a bargain that, might have to invest
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      07-04-2015, 04:05 PM   #6
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Brilliant! Thanks for the replies! Thinking the B14 might be the way to go!
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      07-04-2015, 05:34 PM   #7
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Are these suitable for 330d or are the spring rates different being a heavier car?. Is a bargain that, might have to invest
that is the standard price for the B12 kit on German ebay, search for the kit for your car, and it will be a similar price.

i bought my B12 kit from germany, was under 500 delivered and arrived in 3 days.
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I almost bought from this website. £540 for the b14 kit!!!
http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/BI...35-i-47-120471
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      07-05-2015, 01:19 AM   #9
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Wow. I'm in Germany in next month for holiday, might have to pickup a B14 set for 2/3 of the cost over here!
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      07-05-2015, 08:05 AM   #10
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Indeed you guys have got me thinking too!

Was gonna get some AC springs for like £250 but might just push the boat for some b14 coilovers now.
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      07-05-2015, 12:57 PM   #11
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I was trying to get hold of an H&R touring cupkit from Germany recently, it proved problematic for the 335d.

I'm tempted by the B14 but ideally I was trying to avoid coilovers.
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      07-05-2015, 02:07 PM   #12
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Well! I've ordered B14's from http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/

A bit of a faff with the payment method, (bank transfer saves 2%, whereas Paypal add on a few quid). So went bank transfer, translated the all German order/invoice email and sent the money direct.

Should be here in 3-5 days!

Great price, can't wait!!

Brilliant advice/help, cheeeers!
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I was trying to get hold of an H&R touring cupkit from Germany recently, it proved problematic for the 335d.

I'm tempted by the B14 but ideally I was trying to avoid coilovers.
Don't worry, these only got 1 setting so you don't need to mess it around!
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Well! I've ordered B14's from http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de/

A bit of a faff with the payment method, (bank transfer saves 2%, whereas Paypal add on a few quid). So went bank transfer, translated the all German order/invoice email and sent the money direct.

Should be here in 3-5 days!

Great price, can't wait!!

Brilliant advice/help, cheeeers!
You won't be dissapointed for the price you paid vs improvement it gives!! I would say it is as good as the birds b3 kit but this kit is more valued for money!
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      07-05-2015, 08:38 PM   #15
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Says on bilstein site that the drop is minimum 30mm. Is this true? Because I think that may be too low for my liking!
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      07-06-2015, 02:37 AM   #16
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Pro-kit springs will give you a ride height thats more or less the same as factory MSport cars. Slightly lower at the front (MSport sits a bit uneven, with the front 10mm or so higher than the rear, the Pro-kit sorts that and brings the front down to match)

So with a SE car you'll probably get the ~30mm, whereas with a MSport car its more like 0-10mm.
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      07-06-2015, 09:27 AM   #17
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Get them fitted and give us some feedback!
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      07-07-2015, 10:42 AM   #18
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Quote:
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Says on bilstein site that the drop is minimum 30mm. Is this true? Because I think that may be too low for my liking!
I was just looking at this, I guess as the M sport are 10mm lower than SE (or whatever it is) I'd just be dropping it another 20mm say.

Am I getting that right? It's not a 30mm minimum drop over M sport is it?
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      07-07-2015, 12:49 PM   #19
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Read my post 2 entries above.

Pro-kit wont lower an MSport by much at all, perhaps 10mm at most.
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As above drops are measure from SE, if you want more drop you can adjust the b14 kit as its height adjustable.
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      07-07-2015, 01:31 PM   #21
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I want the B14 as I don't think the B12 drop will be enough.

But if the B14 is a 30-50mm drop over the SE ride height then that'll work for me.
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      07-25-2015, 04:19 AM   #22
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Got my B14's fitted now! What a difference they make! They have completely transformed the handling and road holding of my E92.

They drop is brilliant, I have no rear arch gap and soon to be no front arch gap!
Once all dropped and aligned (and I've washed my car) I'll try and get some pictures up to show the before and after.

Got to say that the ride isn't anywhere near as bumpy or crashy as I thought, don't get me wrong the ride is a lot firmer but nothing ridiculous.

A note on fitting, my brother who is a qualified mechanic of 6 years fitted these on the drive in roughly 3 - 4 hours. He has fitted plenty in his time, and his comments were that the rears were slightly more tricky but nothing major; and that if we was in a garage it would shave an hour off fitting.
He also showed me the original DSF and DSR shocks which had both failed and was leaking everywhere (Bloody stunk!)! He could compress the shocks all the way down by hand and there was no rebound at all...
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