[longtran]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

i dont understand why we have to go directly through Eisenhaus. If INDustry were the ones who sold us the products isnt it THEIR responsibility to resolve it? thats like saying if i was a vendor and sold you a set of fake Miros and I didn't know they were fake, it is my responsibility to give you a full refund+shipping because I was the vendor that sold the fake miros. MY MISTAKE. do you understand INDustry? cause I paid YOU guys. NOT Eisenhaus.

this would be true. IMO. then INDustry will go after eisenhaus.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by longtran

this would be true. IMO. then INDustry will go after eisenhaus.

ya.. thats what im saying.

[PAKMAN]

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112561

we should just call industry because they are next door to eisenhaus. they can probably transfer us by walking door to door. and they are the "MASTER" dealers of eisenmann products.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

heres for the 2 x 90 mm tips

http://eisenmann-sportauspuff.ov3.de...Coupe%2FCabrio

and the 2 x 102mm tips

http://eisenmann-sportauspuff.ov3.de...Coupe%2FCabrio

both from the official EISENMANN website. so who knows? maybe the dual tip exhausts ARE real....

You can't judge by the tips only. You could get the "Meisterschaft" (Eisenmann Race) in 3 different tip versions. You have to look at the muffler, that's the only way you can tell.

[OC Guy]

I sent Ryan@Eisenhaus a PM, no reply yet.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

I sent Ryan@Eisenhaus a PM, no reply yet.

ryan wont be PMing you back mangs! lol.

[NPDAN]

hey so all you guys that bought shit from them. Was it at a discounted price of what the authentic stuff would be or did you get it at a "too good to be true" knock off price?

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by NPDAN

hey so all you guys that bought shit from them. Was it at a discounted price of what the authentic stuff would be or did you get it at a "too good to be true" knock off price?

it was the best price out but was still hella expensive. paying 2000+ for a exhaust system isnt cheap bro.

[PAKMAN]

im just waiting for anthony to reply to my post. knowing that hes been staring at this thread for over 5 mins.

[IND-Distribution]

Originally Posted by billspreston

I definitely agree. Why are these guys getting thrown right to Eisenhaus when Eisenhaus wasn't the one who actually sold the exhaust to the customer. Seems to me like IND and any other vendors distributing these products should be after Eisenhaus on behalf of their customers. Vendors collected a premium over the wholesale price they get from Eisenhaus, who is responsible for this?

If there was a lawsuit, would it not be the vendors vs. Eisenhaus? The vendors are the ones who actually bought the fake exhausts from Eisenhaus and simply passed them along, albeit unknowingly, to their customers. This would set a dangerous precedent basically leaving vendors with 0 liability over the products the sell.

I'm not a lawyer so I apologize to any vendors if I am incorrect.

Taking Eisenhaus to court could take months or even years. I spoke with the owner and he told me to direct all consumers to call him to take care of issues. I think that it would be wise to give that option a shot and see if Eisenhaus takes care of the situation first.

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112561

we should just call industry because they are next door to eisenhaus. they can probably transfer us by walking door to door. and they are the "MASTER" dealers of eisenmann products.

IND is about 20 miles from Eisenhaus. We are now an Eisenmann Master Dealer as we have a contract with Eisenmann to sell Genuine products. If you remember my sig used to say "Please contact me for info on Eisenmann Exhaust and Neez Wheels.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by Palella@Industry

Taking Eisenhaus to court could take months or even years. I spoke with the owner and he told me to direct all consumers to call him to take care of issues. I think that it would be wise to give that option a shot and see if Eisenhaus takes care of the situation first.



IND is about 20 miles from Eisenhaus. We are now an Eisenmann Master Dealer as we have a contract with Eisenmann to sell Genuine products. If you remember my sig used to say "Please contact me for info on Eisenmann Exhaust and Neez Wheels.

im pretty sure eisenmann is done on E90post.com

[san~man]

Well, I for one am calling tomorrow to see what can be done with my Eisenmann "SR" pipes, which of course, aren't supposed to exist in the first place.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

im pretty sure eisenmann is done on E90post.com

Eisenhaus, yes. Eisenmann of Germany still makes great products, so I would say no.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by Palella@Industry

Taking Eisenhaus to court could take months or even years. I spoke with the owner and he told me to direct all consumers to call him to take care of issues. I think that it would be wise to give that option a shot and see if Eisenhaus takes care of the situation first.



IND is about 20 miles from Eisenhaus. We are now an Eisenmann Master Dealer as we have a contract with Eisenmann to sell Genuine products. If you remember my sig used to say "Please contact me for info on Eisenmann Exhaust and Neez Wheels.

i would be embarrassed or ashamed to put MASTER EISENMANN DEALERS as a sig.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by san~man

Eisenhaus, yes. Eisenmann of Germany still makes great products, so I would say no.

im talking about the exhaust in general. no one is going to want to buy a misleading exhaust.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

im talking about the exhaust in general. no one is going to want to buy a misleading exhaust.

I would still buy an Eisenmann knowing it was the German made model, wouldn't you?

The company themselves weren't misleading in any way, it was their former US distributor that was doing the shady acts. IMO, it's unfair to judge Eisenmann the company for their distributors actions.

[PAKMAN]

Originally Posted by san~man

I would still buy an Eisenmann knowing it was the German made model, wouldn't you?

The company themselves weren't misleading in any way, it was their former US distributor that was doing the shady acts. IMO, it's unfair to judge Eisenmann the company for their distributors actions.

no.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

no.

Well, you're entitled to that much. I would still bet that other people would, as long as they knew theirs came directly from Germany.

[PAKMAN]

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=170

[PAKMAN]

there man. that all you have to read. this guy is from germany too.

[san~man]

Originally Posted by PAKMAN

there man. that all you have to read. this guy is from germany too.

I read that too, but again, that isn't Eisenmann doing the shady stuff, it's EISENHAUS. Eisenhaus does not equal Eisenmann.

Everyone understands you're angry, as am I, but
there's is a big difference between those two companies.

[IND-Distribution]

Originally Posted by san~man

I would still buy an Eisenmann knowing it was the German made model, wouldn't you?

The company themselves weren't misleading in any way, it was their former US distributor that was doing the shady acts. IMO, it's unfair to judge Eisenmann the company for their distributors actions.

I agree. That would be like if nobody ever bought a BMW again because one dealership ripped off a bunch of customers. Eisenmann makes high quality exhaust systems and they will continue to do so. The fakes will fade out and Eisenmann will keep doing what they do best. I am truely sorry that this happened this way and I hope that this situation gets resolved. As I said before, the first and best step is to seek compensation from Eisenhaus. If that doesn't work, we will take it further.