[mslam02]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

not a bad ET but the mph is a little low, usually 60 foots are a constant 1.6 1.7 with Xi but since u have subs and all that extra weight, it might be slowing u down a little.

maybe try V7 E40 map or the V5 E40 that targets 21 psi

and since you are AWD always launch from first

As far as the 60 fts, i tried all types of launch RPMs - would get some spinning even with AWD with too high RPM (above 2200), so thinking all-season tires were the culprit there? My best 60ft of the day was 1.78.

I actually showed up with the v5 E40 map, but the car was detonating, judging on a datalog, might just have been a bit too much E85 mixed in, it overloaded the HPFP at that power (my stock LPFP parameters were fine?). But once I put the E30 map on, all was good...

[type-dRew]

@mslam02

On v5 e40 map you need to watch your ethanol mixtures. Even with stage 1 fuel it pump in mine my high side pressures will tank with anything more than e50 in the tank. That tune works the system hard.

Got some nice hard parts on there, I would be running a custom tune with inlets/outlets on the car. OTS maps are going to be wasted on that setup.

That said, i've ran quick and faster on v5 e40 and rfp stage 2 e40 ots with only intercooler on my car(Xi, auto, full weight, 370lb driver), so there is definitely a bunch left on the table for yours. My best 60ft is 1.68. but normally high 1.7x unless the stars align.

What 5inch intercooler? Probably could do with something better there, i'd assume intake temps weren't great.

[mslam02]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

@mslam02

On v5 e40 map you need to watch your ethanol mixtures. Even with stage 1 fuel it pump in mine my high side pressures will tank with anything more than e50 in the tank. That tune works the system hard.

Got some nice hard parts on there, I would be running a custom tune with inlets/outlets on the car. OTS maps are going to be wasted on that setup.

That said, i've ran quick and faster on v5 e40 and rfp stage 2 e40 ots with only intercooler on my car(Xi, auto, full weight, 370lb driver), so there is definitely a bunch left on the table for yours. My best 60ft is 1.68. but normally high 1.7x unless the stars align.

What 5inch intercooler? Probably could do with something better there, i'd assume intake temps weren't great.

Yeah, I ordered an ethanol tester so I can get more accurate on fill-ups. I fill at Sheetz and while they seem to contain higher % ethanol on average than other stations, I still would like to get as accurate as possible.

This is true, Maybe I should just get a custom tune on 93 and maybe an E30 for an extra option and call it a day...

Ill be refilling again this week and testing it out before i hit the track again to make sure its running clean on E40 v5 and try to get there saturday again.

What is your launching technique to get those reliable 60ft times and what tires? What was your run on intercooler only on the v5 map? Only maintenance i'm really in need of is a walnut blast, been about 45k miles since last one... And my tranny not liking 2nd gear launches doesn't help...

I have an ETS 5" intercooler, does a real good job cooling from what i can tell in my logs, not sure about on E40 v5 map though might be pushing it.

[NoGuru]

I had to ditch my 5"ETS after the mods listed in my sig. It was great when I was just DP, DCI, and any MHD tune. But once I started to doing more, it could not keep up and temps would climb 40 to 50 degrees in the 1/4.
Now with the VRSF race, they drop 15 degrees in the 1/4.

[mslam02]

Originally Posted by NoGuru

I had to ditch my 5"ETS after the mods listed in my sig. It was great when I was just DP, DCI, and any MHD tune. But once I started to doing more, it could not keep up and temps would climb 40 to 50 degrees in the 1/4.
Now with the VRSF race, they drop 15 degrees in the 1/4.

Good to know! As i'm not really running the car super hard often, ill have to do some 1/4 mile logs next time i'm there and weigh out pros/cons of upgrading... I'm in grad school without a job for another 20 months so i shouldnt even be running the car hard at all, but whats the fun in that?

[NoGuru]

Originally Posted by mslam02

Good to know! As i'm not really running the car super hard often, ill have to do some 1/4 mile logs next time i'm there and weigh out pros/cons of upgrading... I'm in grad school without a job for another 20 months so i shouldnt even be running the car hard at all, but whats the fun in that?

Yeah you are fine for normal street pulls. I probably would have been as well but I have new turbos on the way and plan for 600+ WHP.

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by mslam02

Yeah, I ordered an ethanol tester so I can get more accurate on fill-ups. I fill at Sheetz and while they seem to contain higher % ethanol on average than other stations, I still would like to get as accurate as possible.

This is true, Maybe I should just get a custom tune on 93 and maybe an E30 for an extra option and call it a day...

Ill be refilling again this week and testing it out before i hit the track again to make sure its running clean on E40 v5 and try to get there saturday again.

What is your launching technique to get those reliable 60ft times and what tires? What was your run on intercooler only on the v5 map? Only maintenance i'm really in need of is a walnut blast, been about 45k miles since last one... And my tranny not liking 2nd gear launches doesn't help...

I have an ETS 5" intercooler, does a real good job cooling from what i can tell in my logs, not sure about on E40 v5 map though might be pushing it.

Well, first off. Launch in first.

I ran 12.3 @ 114 in the heat of the day in 3800DA on v5 e40. I have ran 11.9 @ 116 on RFP stg2 e40 in MUCH better DA(300ft) on the street via Dragy. I build about 6-8lbs on launch which is normally around 2500 rpm and leave wot.

I have all season run flats on the car. I never spin unless I force it to on the street by building 10+psi on the line, which takes a lot of effort.

Heres two logs from back to back passes;

https://datazap.me/u/typedrew/2-pass...&data=3-22

I'd get a fuel pump in your car for one, no reason to do inlets and outlets and not take advantage of them because you didn't upgrade a $400 fuel pump. Then get a custom e50 map from your favorite flavor of tuner and a 93 map for when you dont want to run the good stuff.

V5 e40 will run hard but you are handicapping it by using inlet/outlets on an OTS map, so I don't know how well it will work for you vs my experience. I will say, no other OTS map touches any of the v5 maps(93 octane included)

My PSP 750ic does a great job with temps, barely a 10 degree rise in that 1/4 pass I linked on a 85 degree day.

[Sgop335]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

Well, first off. Launch in first.

I ran 12.3 @ 114 in the heat of the day in 3800DA on v5 e40. I have ran 11.9 @ 116 on RFP stg2 e40 in MUCH better DA(300ft) on the street via Dragy. I build about 6-8lbs on launch which is normally around 2500 rpm and leave wot.

I have all season run flats on the car. I never spin unless I force it to on the street by building 10+psi on the line, which takes a lot of effort.

Heres two logs from back to back passes;

https://datazap.me/u/typedrew/2-pass...og=0&data=3-22

I'd get a fuel pump in your car for one, no reason to do inlets and outlets and not take advantage of them because you didn't upgrade a $400 fuel pump. Then get a custom e50 map from your favorite flavor of tuner and a 93 map for when you dont want to run the good stuff.

V5 e40 will run hard but you are handicapping it by using inlet/outlets on an OTS map, so I don't know how well it will work for you vs my experience. I will say, no other OTS map touches any of the v5 maps(93 octane included)

My PSP 750ic does a great job with temps, barely a 10 degree rise in that 1/4 pass I linked on a 85 degree day.

Did you already have XHP for the above logs? What lpfp do you have?

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by Sgop335

Did you already have XHP for the above logs? What lpfp do you have?

Yeah, xhp stage 3 ots for those runs.

Stage 1 fuel it.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by NoGuru

I had to ditch my 5"ETS after the mods listed in my sig. It was great when I was just DP, DCI, and any MHD tune. But once I started to doing more, it could not keep up and temps would climb 40 to 50 degrees in the 1/4.
Now with the VRSF race, they drop 15 degrees in the 1/4.

im having the same issues with my V1 5" vrsf fmic, doing 1/4 mile temp goes from 100f - 170F by the end of the track ( ambient was 85f )

my timing goes down to 7-8 in 3rd and 4th and i can feel it losing power on the top end

did your times improve at all with the addition of 7.5 race fmic ??


2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

[NoGuru]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

im having the same issues with my V1 5" vrsf fmic, doing 1/4 mile temp goes from 100f - 170F by the end of the track ( ambient was 85f )

my timing goes down to 7-8 in 3rd and 4th and i can feel it losing power on the top end

did your times improve at all with the addition of 7.5 race fmic ??


2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

No, my times got worse. But I only went back once since I installed and temps were about 15 degrees colder, and I could not get traction.
So my theroy is, more power and less traction = worse times. But I would say you need it for sure if temps are getting above 150 for IAT's.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by NoGuru

No, my times got worse. But I only went back once since I installed and temps were about 15 degrees colder, and I could not get traction.
So my theroy is, more power and less traction = worse times. But I would say you need it for sure if temps are getting above 150 for IAT's.

i def. need it, its on the way already

i got drag radials and lsd so traction is not a big issue even though when it hooks in 2nd it tends to slip to 3rd right away, so i have to make it slip a bit off the line in order to stay in 2nd

thanks for the info.

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

[type-dRew]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

im having the same issues with my V1 5" vrsf fmic, doing 1/4 mile temp goes from 100f - 170F by the end of the track ( ambient was 85f )

my timing goes down to 7-8 in 3rd and 4th and i can feel it losing power on the top end

did your times improve at all with the addition of 7.5 race fmic ??


2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

I cant believe you are putting down the times you are with ridiculous intake temps and timing pulls up top.

Definitely want to see you upgrade that before the season is over

[byebyev8]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

I cant believe you are putting down the times you are with ridiculous intake temps and timing pulls up top.

Definitely want to see you upgrade that before the season is over

Thats what happens when you run High Boost on stock turbo's with inlets. Kind of funny that his car runs the exact same times as mine with the same setup with almost the exact same timing pulls once the IAT's get in close to 150. (11.9@120mph on street tires) I think the only way to combat the high IAT's would be with a meth kit.

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

I cant believe you are putting down the times you are with ridiculous intake temps and timing pulls up top.

Definitely want to see you upgrade that before the season is over

its coming on friday, just gotta drive down to the states to grab it, next track day is on the 27th, so ill have a chance to try it out. I tried cooling it with water and co2 tanks as well, but just sitting in line the temps climb like crazy so its a good upgrade even if i dont shave much time. As long as i pass 120mph ill be happy

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by byebyev8

Thats what happens when you run High Boost on stock turbo's with inlets. Kind of funny that his car runs the exact same times as mine with the same setup with almost the exact same timing pulls once the IAT's get in close to 150. (11.9@120mph on street tires) I think the only way to combat the high IAT's would be with a meth kit.

meth surely helps a ton with the iats but in my case it would still be heat soaked sitting in line and only once you get going you would get the benefit of cooling with meth, so i would be starting off at 100F+ again. ASGURU said his IATs dropped 15c during the pull with the 7.5 race FMIC and im sure if the ambient temps are at 80-85 they wouldnt climb to 100+ just sitting in line as the big 7.5 doesnt heat soak.

i ran 11.5 not 11.9 11.9 @ 116 was last season without most of the mods i have now.

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

[byebyev8]

Originally Posted by Silent11N54

meth surely helps a ton with the iats but in my case it would still be heat soaked sitting in line and only once you get going you would get the benefit of cooling with meth, so i would be starting off at 100F+ again. ASGURU said his IATs dropped 15c during the pull with the 7.5 race FMIC and im sure if the ambient temps are at 80-85 they wouldnt climb to 100+ just sitting in line as the big 7.5 doesnt heat soak.

i ran 11.5 not 11.9 11.9 @ 116 was last season without most of the mods i have now.

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.5 @ 119 / Instagram @silent11n54

Yea i have a set kosei k1's with nt05rs and the xhp trans flash now. Also a m sport conversion. So im shooting for similar times to yours. My IATs were starting around 110 shooting up to 160 at 22psi.

[byebyev8]

Looks like the m-sport bumper and Jb4 max cool helped alot with the IAT's. Starting around 105 to 127 at the end of the 1/4 mile going back down to 110 before i hit the pits. Looks like with more aggressive timing (12 degrees now) and more boost (20psi now) Id be able to get in the low 11's. I was traping 120mph last season and 96mph in the 8th mile. I'm having issues getting my 4bar map sensor to seat all the way which is why my is dropping boost so fast.

11.7@117 FBO/mmp inlets outlets/ xhp stage 3/on3 7inch fmic/e60 tune/ fuel-it stage 1/kosei k1 nt05rs

[Silent9n54]

SICK day at the track.

Broke my previous best 4 times

Needless to say the new Race 7.5 FMIC is doing its thing !



2007 E92 335i / VRSF 7.5 Race FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.4 @ 120 / Instagram @silent11n54

[type-dRew]

holy shit, well done

your combustion chambers are thanking you for those temperatures

[Silent9n54]

Originally Posted by type-dRew

holy shit, well done

your combustion chambers are thanking you for those temperatures

yeah the temps barely go up with the new fmic, even hot lapped it at the end going against my buddy with the 135i.

With the intake temps staying so low i can run couple more degrees of timing so hopefully this week ill better my PB.

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 7.5 Race FMIC-Charge Pipe-DCI-Inlets/ TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E50 Custom Tune by WedgePerformance / APEX ARC8 / MT ET Street / 11.4 @ 120 / Instagram @silent11n54

[blown07]

First time at the track in 4 years with the winter beating AWD !
Was on 94 and spraying meth (probably 85%meth) and 8 oz of race gas concentrate on a 1/8+ tank. Was struggling to hold the car back with the brakes all day. I stored the car for a while and ceramic brake pads do a crap job of removing some rust lol. First 4 runs were with full traction control off. I only beat my time of 4 years ago by .01. I thought maybe I used to keep TC on so first pass with full traction control I cut a 1.767 60' but aborted the run when low flowing meth kicked me into map 4 (AFR separation). Next run somehow I left in second gear - I think because it was a VERY long light and it shifted into 2nd while brake boosting. I decided to try one last time and hot lapped it...literally drove around to next car in line and got my best ET by 3 tenths and 2mph...still trying to figure out how - water temp was 226 - should have been in max cool or sport cooling. The one significant thing I noticed was that when brake boosting on run 1 and 3 with full traction control the DME cut all timing allowing me to build 10+PSI without creeping forward...lesson learned...will also try some 109 octane next time. Can post a log if anyone is interested...also got my best 0 to 60 with Draggy showing 3.55s no roll out.
Let me know everyone's thoughts on TC for launching...I may have screwed up the TC terminology so I know this could turn into one of those arguments lolz.