[ShaneN55]

Originally Posted by Faredo

Ya i dont know, I think the OP has a point. If a high school kid buys a 335i good luck keeping it stock. they will mod it and and probably be in over their head.

At least with an NA you have a safer and less expensive ceiling to cut your teeth on.

As a high schooler with a 335i I can confirm this is true. No regrets though

[Unknown_Car]

Originally Posted by AWSB328iM

I can easily find a running 2007 335i for $5-7k.

With 200k miles, and with problems sure. My friend sold his 07 recently with 60k for 13k.

[rick100]

Originally Posted by racermp

I was completely wrong dude. but check this out....

ops budget, 6k
here's what u get comparing apples to apples

07 328i premium, sport 110k for $6k
https://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/200...condition=good

07 335i, premium, sport, 110k $6800
https://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/200...condition=good

so now we are talking about $800. can u make anything over 250hp with $800 on a 328i and still be more reliable than a 335i....

yes stock.328i has a few less issues, still gonna visit the Indy and pay big. but after u mod it with cams and shit, it ain't gonna be the same angel....

you show two cars that have hit bottom price as they are older than 10 years with high mileage . Its not even a real price as it is kbb value which noone really uses to sell their cars. Even so , the repairs on a high mileage car like that on turbo components can easily hit the 3-4 k in no time , so it is a ticking bomb that someone else wants to dump and noone in their right mind would go an buy a really old 335 with the amount of mileage and no have 3k in the bank reserve for repairs, while the 328 is not an angel but at least you do not need the extra 3k or more after you just purchased the car. Lets not even talk about the possible failures on the turbo if you start messing with it because most people decided to get jb4 and thats a whole new bag of issues on older cars, have seen many threads regarding this

as per your mods remark , just goes to show how little you know about the 328, there are no cams available, only mods are 3 stage intake with is basically a stock bmw 330 part and headers which is a breathing mod , and a tune which is actually going to make your car behave better, if done right none of these mods will make your 328 go to the shop more often .

And again you 335 guys get so caught up on I want 300-400 whp bs that you can not understand that for some people a 230 hp car is more than enough for the street and daily. If the 328 can easily achieve 270-280 crank hp with 3 mods is actually a pretty good option for the street, reliability and staying na

Now, this is not a 328 is fast thread, because even after getting breathing mods its not really fast, but it is quick and fast enough for the street to have some fun .
You want fast, then get a mustang cobra , hellcat and go to the drag strip

I dont do track or drag so to me street performance is what I would really want and the 328 with full bolts on is more than capable to satisfy those needs

would I get a n54 335? sure , I m actually looking for one , but I m not spending all my money , I m actually keeping 3-5k in the bank as my goal is to upgrade the turbo's and do a proper build , keep the car as a weekend toy , do the occasional drag run. Would I get a daily n54? sure but I would look for one that had the main components repaired and has a track of the maintenance , and I m sure the owner would not let it go for 8 k , but thats ok , I would pay a bit more to get something that is not going to get me headaches .

[rick100]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

With 200k miles, and with problems sure. My friend sold his 07 recently with 60k for 13k.

then you ll get the new threads about how I m a high school student and I spend my 8k savings getting a 335 which is nothing but problems , please help !!

that is the problem with these kids, they go out spend all their money on the fastest car which is usually not what the car is worth , then the person selling those cars dump their problematic car on them . Then you get all the crying about how unreliable the car is

If you are paying 8k for an old 335 , you better have 3-5k in the bank for maintenance .

I highly doubt someone will sell their mint , good running 335 without any issues for 8k. The ones selling for that price are usually the ones people do not want to spend the money to fix. The nice ones running mint , sell for a lot higher and the owner usually has prove of all the repairs and maintenance. But good luck finding one like that for 8k , unless the owner is mentally retarded

[WhiteBeard]

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by WhiteBeard

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Originally Posted by WhiteBeard

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

[Bmw_Crazy]

You know how many 335 owners are on the road that are WANT TO BE RACERS
Stupid decision just to drive a 335 tag around.. Be smart stay relaible get a bmw performance exhaust a few mods here and there and you will be happy☺️ Don't play the want to be racer card

[Bmw_Crazy]

Originally Posted by WhiteBeard

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

😂 pics

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by WhiteBeard

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

Cute

[desertman123]

No Ur Car Sux

No Ur Car Sux!!!!!!!!111!!

[feuer]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Also, I'm not interested in what VW tuners use,
because 1 - VW is shit and 2 - call me when one of these tuners is on AMS' level.

Hey, come on now! Really? VW is shit? That is not very nice to say. AMS tuned my 2.0t VW lol

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by Bmw_Crazy

You know how many 335 owners are on the road that are WANT TO BE RACERS
Stupid decision just to drive a 335 tag around.. Be smart stay relaible get a bmw performance exhaust a few mods here and there and you will be happy☺️ Don't play the want to be racer card

yea you nailed it, I usually drive around with my helmet in my passenger seat??

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by racermp

in all honesty, being a college kid.and trying to afford an old beater just to mod it, just a horrible idea. any car under 10k is going to need so.e sort of.maintenance. brakes, fluid flushes, etc. this stuff adds up quick. if someone says they want to be in college and afford a nice car, get a reliable car to begin with, which rules out BMW entirely. is250/350 or get would be way better especially at higher miles. we are talking 3g diff between 328i and 335i, if the guy can't afford 3g for the added performance, then you should.be looking else where because either car will take 1k plus in maintenance just the first year. plus college kids should concentrate on college than spending nights and weekends doing diys.....

sorry just reality, only buy what you can afford purchase price may be cheap( for a reason), but if u only have 8g to spend on a car and u spent 6 already, the 2g will not go into mods, emergencies and maintenance will easily desolve that. a person in this category should really buy a.corolla or Civic. flame me, but financially you know I'm right.

btw 328i has alot of the same issues as a 335i. water pump, fuel pump, electronics, coils, gaskets, bushings, etc. yes 335i has turbo water gates and hpfp issues but not.that much more unreliable than a 328i.

Except the 335i has some issues that cost so much to repair that you might as well junk the car. Such as turbos failing outside of warranty which I believe most of them are outside of warranty at this point. I can't imagine paying 10k for a 335i only to have the turbos go to shit and have to pay 5k to get it fixed.

[NFiftyWon]

Originally Posted by IISevv

Hey guys, just writing this article for fun, trying to help out some 328i owners who are wanting to modify their vehicle. Hope you enjoy and find it helpful.

Most people think modifying an N52 is a pointless endeavor but that simply isn't true. 328's and e90 325's can be found used for $3,000-$4,000 less than a 335 with similar mileage (KBB values and local market price), but can make almost the same power as a stock 335 for arohnd $2000. Obviously if you want big power you'll need a 335, but this is for those guys who just want to be close to a stock one.

One of the best, If not THE single best modification for an N52 is the 3-stage intake manifold from the 330i. It uses sensors to direct air to the cylinders that need it most; the parts cost about $300, and with a tune has shown dyno numbers of 260 horsepower. Another easy modification is a secondary cat delete. It has no 02 sensors so will not cause any issues and any local muffler shop should be able to do it for around $50-$75. With a tune this mod will produce about another 10 horsepower. The perfect last mod to go along with the upgraded intake manifold is a set of headers with either no or high-flow cars, and a higher-flowing intake. You can make one yourself using piping and a brand-name cone filter. It wont sound quite as good as a performance CAI, but Will do the job and doesn't cost $400 either. With the intake, a set of headers should produce around 25 horsepower if tuned properly.

It would be recommended to do all of these mods, and then tune just to save on cost. All together, dyno figures have shown that they should produce around 290 horsepower at the crank. Not quite 335i competitive, but will make they 328i damn fun on a budget. Here is a breakdown of what each mod will net you.

Intake manifold: 20 by itself/30 if tuned
Tune by itself: About 10 horsepower
Intake by itself: Aboout 10 horsepower
Headers by itself: about 15 horsepower, slightly more with the right intake
Secondary cat delete: About 10 horsepower

IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:
This article is entirely based on my opinions and what I have seen in terms of dyno numbers. I cannot guarantee any specific gains, I'm simply trying to help out my fellow 328i people who maybe can't afford a 335. If you have any questions I'll be happy to answer them to the best of my ability. I take no responsibility for any damage you cause to your car by modifying it, and removing cats is illegal in some states.

I have DISA 3 stage, Supersprint headers, muffler delete, secondary cat delete, stage 2 AA tune, charcoal filter delete, injen CAI and afe intake scoops. With 15% drivetrain loss i only make about 282 at the crank.. not 300

[ronjonsoflo]

Originally Posted by NFiftyWon

I have DISA 3 stage, Supersprint headers, muffler delete, secondary cat delete, stage 2 AA tune, charcoal filter delete, injen CAI and afe intake scoops. With 15% drivetrain loss i only make about 282 at the crank.. not 300

What do your 0-60 times looks like with all the mods added on?

[EB89]

This thread is great

[3002 tii]

Originally Posted by WhiteBeard

Every month some dipshits come together to argue

Hilarious

[NFiftyWon]

Originally Posted by ronjonsoflo

What do your 0-60 times looks like with all the mods added on?

In ideal conditions i could probably put down 60 in 5.2-5.3 but its typically 5.5ish

[CrippledLucifer]

I'm just going to pop in here and say I love my 328i. The only "performance" mods I have are the PE and an M3 suspension retrofit. Gotta love me that naturally aspirated N52.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by NFiftyWon

I have DISA 3 stage, Supersprint headers, muffler delete, secondary cat delete, stage 2 AA tune, charcoal filter delete, injen CAI and afe intake scoops. With 15% drivetrain loss i only make about 282 at the crank.. not 300

About 239whp then.

I love these conversations though, because it always brings the trolls out.

Entertainment wise, it 's up there with conversations about merge collectors and dynos, I love the meltdowns.

[BravoJohny33]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

With 200k miles, and with problems sure. My friend sold his 07 recently with 60k for 13k.

Whoever paid 13k for a 10 year old BMW is a chump.