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09-07-2020, 01:29 PM | #1 |
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Sos, sound & controller help
2007 6spd e92 155k Miles logic 7 and nav 03/07 build, ccc (grey knob with menu button)
I received the sos light and the following no longer work: -sos -Bluetooth -no chimes -no sound from music -idrive controller -volume knob doesn't adjust volume -steering wheel volume doesn't work -time and date show dashes on nav screen. (They are fine on dash) What does work: -nav screen loads maps and follows my location accurately on map as I drive. (Idrive Controller doesn't do anything though) -mode button flips modes (eg radio, aux, cd), but no sound / music Anyone know what's wrong, or where to start? I tried checking all fuses and battery is new and coded.
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Blinking yellow means AMPLIFIER IS WORKING and getting input signal from the head unit, but output signal is somewhere lost due to the next bad unit in the loop. So you just need to find a bad unit and either bypass it or replace it with a working one. Most common units to fail are: Sirius satellite unit, Bluetooth telephone unit
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-plugging jumper into Optic connector for TCU, i regain control of my idrive controller and can navigate the menus. SoS error light stays on. I cannot hear chimes or music from speakers when i switch to entertainment modes. i was finally able to navigate the menus and reset my tpms since i installed new tires last week after the electronic issue. the amp stayed flashing yellow indicating a failure down the chain. -the jumper from bmw is too small to fit the sat tuner optic connector. not sure why mines different size than in your video. Questions: -are you saying that there are additional optic connectors/components that i should be looking at, aside from just the tcu, and the sat tuner that i see in the trunk? -what next steps do you recommend at this point? I've read through the 41 page document and all the other links and tried to follow as best i could. Thank you
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Your using a Radio Frequency ID Loop makes no sense.
Your creative terminology is not needed. Optic connector on module and optic jumper . Unless you are on a different planet. Its and optic loop. the optic jumpers are cheap on amazon. https://www.amazon.com/RENYIAO-Bypas...TWVZYFNQVJGYGN If you have a TCU and a Mulf there are two optics connectors there the Mulf is under the TCU. Then if you have a satellite module that is another connector . The standard thing to do is move a jumper through one module location at a time and see which one makes a difference . I guess all of them could be bad at the same time. In addition the Fiber cables themselves could be bad at some point. There was one case where Rats had eaten through some of the cables in one guys car. You can test the cables by shinning a light source though one end to see if the light comes out the other end. There is also a test point under the dash that has a jumper that must be plugged in. All the information is in those links if your read them . When you bypass a module it should be obvious that the functions of that module will cease to function. TCU = SOS and bluetooth Mulf = bluetooth phone and usb with mulf 2 Combox =bluetooth phone and usb and streaming music with the right option programmed in on an idrive car. Do you have pictures of where you are trying to put in these jumpers. I can see how any of these jumpers would limit your abitlity to navigate the menus in the idrive the functions associated with the modules would not work because those functions are on the modules. Last edited by ctuna; 09-09-2020 at 02:04 PM.. |
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I need to find a larger size optic loop. The optic connectors for the amp and the sat tuner are slightly larger than the optic connector for the tcu. Plugging the loop into the tcu results in changes observed in my previous post - I can use my idrive controller again but still no sound. I don't see a mulf below the tcu, just empty space. Pics attached
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As I recall the outer part of the connector detaches
from the inner part and is reconfigurable. Last edited by ctuna; 09-09-2020 at 04:55 PM.. |
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If you bypass all the upper trunk modules and no sound comes back
its likely the amp is bad. To bypass both at the same time you would need two jumpers. The ytube video's are usually what solves this. Last edited by ctuna; 10-25-2020 at 05:15 PM.. |
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Is the sat tuner used only for satellite radio? If so, I never use it, so can I simply tape the jumper to the connector more securely and just not worry about it since all my other functions now work?
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Siruis Satellite Radio is only for satelite radio it has nothing to do
with the Normal Fm Radio they are both entirely different things. They are on entirely different circuits. |
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Even better! Thank you for the help, you're a genuinely great fellow and a boon to our community
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First off- this thread is extremely helpful so thank you guys!
Second- I'm struggling with this issue and cannot pinpoint the problem still. I have the SOS malfunction with no sound, iDrive works as it should, but both my SAT and AUX radio options are grayed out even when I have a component plugged in for the AUX input. Swapped in a different TCU at first and that didn't do anything. I started tracing the fiber optic loop and have light at each connection through the amp, to TCU, to SAT module, but not at the termination point under the dash. I purchased a bypass and still no light at the termination point under the dash. I even pulled apart the jumper and confirmed that when I put one end of the jumper to the SAT radio connector, I can see a light at the output end of the bypass jumper so it seems that the bypass is working as well, but still no light at the termination connection under the dash. Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be happening here? I haven't done any work that would result in a break in the fiber optic cable anywhere on the drivers side...
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You did not say which sound system you have. Logic 7 or Hi Fi .
If you have the USB option 6FL there is and additional module undereath the TCU that is also part of the Most Bus called the Mulf 2 HI in an 08 car which I guess is what you have but you didn't state that. the first thing to do is always check for water on the amp and then read the amp LED's if you have Logic 7. The process for isolating the problem is in all those previous entry's |
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I do have the USB connector in my center console, so I am assuming this indicates that I do have the Mulf 2 HI module, however from what I have seen above, it looks like the SAT module is the last module in the chain, and I do have a light on the fiber optic connector that feeds the SAT module, but no light where the connector terminates under the dash on the drivers side. Is it likely that the Mulf 2 HI module is the one that has failed me?
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There is no order to the chain. It's a loop.
However the Head unit could be considered the start or sever. So get and optical jumper and move it through all the positions. |
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Also on mine, the termination point under the steering wheel was never lit.
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11-02-2020, 12:53 AM | #21 |
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http://www.bmwlogicseven.com/?p=3837
From the above link Steady yellow means its getting input fiber optic signal from the head unit (CCC or CIC) and output signal travels to the head unit correctly through other units , so you should hear the sound in most cases, but rarely it also could be some software glitch with CCC, when you don't get sound with working amp. Try CCC reset. Blinking yellow means AMPLIFIER IS WORKING and getting input signal from the head unit, but output signal is somewhere lost due to the next bad unit in the loop. So you just need to find a bad unit and either bypass it or replace it with a working one. Most common units to fail are: Sirius satellite unit, Bluetooth telephone unit No Yellow LED, but you can see blinknig red LED deep inside most likely means 3 things: amp is bad no power getting to the amp check last 2 thick wires red and brown 12V should be present always, otherwise check fuses in the trunk. No fiber optic input getting into the amp from head unit, but in this case you should see a red LED on for 15-20secs, this means amp is waiting for a signal and if no signal present it will go to sleep mode. Easy to check, you should see a blinking red LED in the CAR CONNECTOR with the amp fiber optic connector disconnected. If its blinking it means head unit is sending signal to the amp and amp CPU has to accept it and send the output signal back to other units and head unit eventually. Rarely, But if no red led present in the connector it means no signal is coming from the head unit due to either bad head unit or some fiber optic wire damage. If you remove head unit and you see a red light blinking, you should see the same blinking at the amp connector. So basically you should get steady yellow LED at the amp, which will indicate the network is working, bypass not working modules and if amp is good you will get sound back to your car! |
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Ended up being the MULF unit on mine. Oddly enough, once the jumper was in all sound was back and Bluetooth functionality with my phone was restored, but I still don't have the AUX back so I will be getting a replacement.
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