[Fritzer]

Listen to your Dad kid... Have him lease you something new, under warranty, and with a maintenance plan or something.

[ctuna]

335 is not that different in terms of cost and maintenance.
A 335is is just a slightly tweaked 335.
Turbo's mean trouble or big amounts of money.

[BMWinAZ]

Originally Posted by Kasra2002

I'm looking at a 2015 335i would that be better to maintain

Yes, the n55 engine is much more reliable than the n54. However, that does not necessarily make it a cheap car to maintain. The n55 runs fairly hot and that is hard on rubber gaskets, which consequently need to be replaced sooner than in "cooler" engines. Some of those you may be able to diy, but not all and labor cost is going to get you there! Also, the f30 335i, although a fast and fun car (I have one and I love it), is a fairly large four door sedan. It's really the size of a 5 series from a few generations ago. I think you are correct in looking for a low mileage car in order to have fewer initial repairs and problems, however you will pay a premium for that and people are not wrong in assuming that a novice driver might be more accident prone (happened to me way back when).

[BMWinAZ]

Originally Posted by BMWinAZ

Yes, the n55 engine is much more reliable than the n54. However, that does not necessarily make it a cheap car to maintain. The n55 runs fairly hot and that is hard on rubber gaskets, which consequently need to be replaced sooner than in "cooler" engines. Some of those you may be able to diy, but not all and labor cost is going to get you there! Also, the f30 335i, although a fast and fun car (I have one and I love it), is a fairly large four door sedan. It's really the size of a 5 series from a few generations ago. I think you are correct in looking for a low mileage car in order to have fewer initial repairs and problems, however you will pay a premium for that and people are not wrong in assuming that a novice driver might be more accident prone (happened to me way back when).

Just realized that a 2015 335 might have the successor to the n55 (b something or other) for an engine. Know nothing about its reliability but people seem to like the performance.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Go for it! I'm a bit older than you and love the 335is I just got. If your dad is willing to pay it all for you and you that lucky to be in a family like that then for sure get it!

Had a 330ci that I totalled but I learned from those mistake. Just don't try drifting with the traction control off in roads with poles haha.

Honnestly, keeping the traction control on on a straight road can't see how you can crash it. Just start learning the car a bit.

If you're not a car guy then maybe it's not agood starter car. But if you are a car guy and like, know how a car works and yada yada, I don't see the problem.

[WeekendWarriorz]

If you leave it stock it's honestly not too expensive to maintain. But you'll need to give it some attention and if you don't know the way around these cars every private shop will rape you. I'm guessing you guys have money (you live in Calabasas), so in my opinion, have your dad get a good set of tools and learn to do repairs yourself when the car needs to be serviced. No the car isn't just going to leave you stranded somewhere to die.

And don't listen to anyone saying you're too young to drive this type of car, maybe when they were 16 they had parents who cockblocked them or they drove like a dumbass and crashed their cars/ came close too. When I was your age I was driving a FBO+meth N54 until I sold it and then I would drive my dads e92 m3 to high school regularly and GTR occasionally. Be responsible, learn the car, and enjoy it. Another option if the budget entails is a newer F8x M3/M4.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by BMWinAZ

Just realized that a 2015 335 might have the successor to the n55 (b something or other) for an engine. Know nothing about its reliability but people seem to like the performance.

You are much better off with a Honda Civic to be honest.

However, if you really want a BMW, get a 328i with the N52 motor. It will be a much better car in terms of reliability than a 335i.

I would tell you to get a job & raise the money or at least 50% of it. That will prove to your Dad, you are up to the challenge.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

If you leave it stock it's honestly not too expensive to maintain. But you'll need to give it some attention and if you don't know the way around these cars every private shop will rape you. I'm guessing you guys have money (you live in Calabasas), so in my opinion, have your dad get a good set of tools and learn to do repairs yourself when the car needs to be serviced. No the car isn't just going to leave you stranded somewhere to die.

And don't listen to anyone saying you're too young to drive this type of car, maybe when they were 16 they had parents who cockblocked them or they drove like a dumbass and crashed their cars/ came close too. When I was your age I was driving a FBO+meth N54 until I sold it and then I would drive my dads e92 m3 to high school regularly and GTR occasionally. Be responsible, learn the car, and enjoy it. Another option if the budget entails is a newer F8x M3/M4.

Exactly. Why ain't he allowed to drive the car if he's young. Just keep the traction control on and common sense and you can hardly crash the by accident.

And if your in a family that is wealthy and your dad can pay the car for you then you are even more lucky and you should def take advantage of that!

[coochjr]

Honestly at 16 the only way to learn to drive is to experiment and learn your limits. Not sure that I would do it in a 335 but I mean shoot go for it if you can pay or do the repairs your self which I'm guessing you can't but it's a great platform to learn on and become a car guy yourself. I'm 19 and I have a 335i but I work and go to school, all that jazz so I pay for my own things and work on my car myself. But unless you have a job rip gas kid bc that thing will eat up all your money in gas and the first time something breaks you'll want to sell it. Just get one with a warranty and leave it stock unless you got deep pockets

[ny325]

Hmm. 16, and you want a BMW 335is. Maybe it's me.

[Sbar]

I have a 2011 335is. The others are right, you will HAVE to do some maintenance at certain mileage that you wouldn't necessarily think you should have to. However, at 16 I can think of nothing better than to learn how to maintain and repair your own car (whether your family has tons of money or not). Not only is it a good skill to have in a pinch, but it builds character, makes you appreciate your car more, and is a great hobby (albeit a very expensive one). This is coming from a 41 year old with a 16 year old son that begs to drive mine all the time. He hasn't been allowed to release all the ponies yet as he doesn't have experience yet with handling his own 04 Malibu so it will be quite a while before I trust him to take it out on his own. But, if you are willing to do the work yourself, pay for the maintenance, and respect the car and the fact that it's easier to hurt/kill yourself and others when the power level is high and experience is low, go for it. I just think your dad is concerned more about the horsepower than the cost.

[WeekendWarriorz]

Why is everyone here acting like a stock 335is is too much for a 16 year old? The car is freaking slow stock and weighs 3700lbs. If he's saying he wants to go FBO and e85 that's another story. It's not too much to handle for someone with a sense of rational decision making. I'm sorry but to those of you who had 335i's at a young age and said you slid them into a curb you're dumbasses.

[Pladi]

Originally Posted by nsjames

your dad is completely right.
especially if he's the one that has to pay for it, and it's subsequent maintenance/repair.

you know what solves this problem? getting a job and having your own money, then you can buy anything you like.
When I was 16 I bought my own car, paid for my own repairs/gas/insurance.

he needs to get a lawyer involved here..

[Pladi]

Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Why is everyone here acting like a stock 335is is too much for a 16 year old? The car is freaking slow stock and weighs 3700lbs. If he's saying he wants to go FBO and e85 that's another story. It's not too much to handle for someone with a sense of rational decision making. I'm sorry but to those of you who had 335i's at a young age and said you slid them into a curb you're dumbasses.

If ur dumb and reckless any car is a bad idea. . i see your point

[Ozzie335i]

Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

If he's saying he wants to go FBO and e85 that's another story.

'tis where it all starts. I mean, who really leaves these rides stock?

[MethodologysN54]

no regardless ur dad will be looking at lots of maintenance bills get a lebanon and call it a day

[N54Society]

I don't think a single kid under 20 years of age has ever listened to the advice we've given them when they ask this question on here. This kid seems a little more receptive to the advice based on his follow up question of whether a 2015 335i would be a better choice. If the car has warranty then, yes, it is a better choice but it leaves one other issue unaddressed.

Sometimes I wonder what these kids move up to in terms of power and bang for the buck when they get such a powerful car (even at stock levels) after they're ready to move onto the next car? I had a nice gradual upgrade and I appreciate that now. I know if a 335i was my first car, I would be bored with literally anything after that in terms of power with my budget at that age.

As an adult, that's less of a problem because you have expendable cash and can budget better but that's a different age group too. I just can't get a slower car going forward but that may just be me. At 33, a GT-R or F80 M3 are the only two cars I'm considering upgrading to in the next year or two. I just can't get a slower car. Maybe not everyone is like me but I would imagine most car guys have this thought process.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Kasra2002

Hey guys, im 16 and i want a 2013 335is but my dad wont buy it. Its not because of the price its because he thinks its old and it will break down on me. Have you guys had any major problems with your 335is. im trying to convince him because i love this car

I got an idea.... why not get a job, put together $5,000.00 and have your dad match the other $5000.00. Then you pay 1/2 of the payments.

Kids working for something instead of Mom & Dad just giving it to them is a GREAT IDEA and GREAT PARENTING. Unfortunately, an ideal that's almost lost in today's society.

If your dad makes you earn your keep, he's a great dad, in my book. Please take no offense to my post.

OR

Use my idea to get the car you want. A 335is is a special car, and you should take the time to research it and find one you really want during the time you are saving your $5,000.00.

Just my 2 cents

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by vbp6us

I don't think a single kid under 20 years of age has ever listened to the advice we've given them when they ask this question on here. This kid seems a little more receptive to the advice based on his follow up question of whether a 2015 335i would be a better choice. If the car has warranty then, yes, it is a better choice but it leaves one other issue unaddressed.

Sometimes I wonder what these kids move up to in terms of power and bang for the buck when they get such a powerful car (even at stock levels) after they're ready to move onto the next car? I had a nice gradual upgrade and I appreciate that now. I know if a 335i was my first car, I would be bored with literally anything after that in terms of power with my budget at that age.

As an adult, that's less of a problem because you have expendable cash and can budget better but that's a different age group too. I just can't get a slower car going forward but that may just be me. At 33, a GT-R or F80 M3 are the only two cars I'm considering upgrading to in the next year or two. I just can't get a slower car. Maybe not everyone is like me but I would imagine most car guys have this thought process.

Well I just hit 21 and I can tell ya my next car would like to be either an M2 or M4. An actual M car would be nice gradual upgrade.

[N54Society]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Well I just hit 21 and I can tell ya my next car would like to be either an M2 or M4. An actual M car would be nice gradual upgrade.

When are you thinking of upgrading?

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by vbp6us

When are you thinking of upgrading?

After 4 to 6 years for sure.

But seeing the rod bearing issues and what not scares me a bit in if my engine will actually last that lone. Although it seems more prevalent on N55 but yeah..

[N54Society]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

After 4 to 6 years for sure.

But seeing the rod bearing issues and what not scares me a bit in if my engine will actually last that lone. Although it seems more prevalent on N55 but yeah..

Yeah see that makes more sense. I'm 33, both my wife and I make six figures each, own a house, and still can't see myself buying a car in the $50k range yet lol.