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      02-12-2016, 08:45 PM   #45
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That makes sense. So since my DEF tank is full (at least that's what the SA told me), it should be fine to continue driving?
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      02-12-2016, 08:47 PM   #46
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What do you reccommend me do Bob? I've got about 800~ miles on the car since I got it back, no urea ever since, obviously
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      02-12-2016, 10:17 PM   #47
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mine was showing 550ish before shutdown when I shipped it off.
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      02-13-2016, 06:19 AM   #48
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I think it is low.
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      01-10-2017, 04:20 PM   #49
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I can't make my own thread because I'm a new member but, I just purchased a '11 335d. I drove it about 150 miles(all highway) home with no issue. Test drive fine, no foreseeable issues.

I since have had the car sitting(outside, upstate NY) for about a week. Started it the other day and the car idled fine for about 1-2 minutes and just shut off. No engine codes, no signs of anything funny with the electronics(cluster, idrive, etc). And now it will not restart.

I thought it may have been gelled(less than 1/4 tank, below 10 degrees at night + wind chill) so I pushed it in the garage, cranked the heat, threw some 9-1-1 in the tank and let it sit. No luck. Here is a video of what it is doing.

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      01-10-2017, 04:44 PM   #50
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Low battery?
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      01-10-2017, 04:52 PM   #51
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I can't make my own thread because I'm a new member but, I just purchased a '11 335d. I drove it about 150 miles(all highway) home with no issue. Test drive fine, no foreseeable issues.

I since have had the car sitting(outside, upstate NY) for about a week. Started it the other day and the car idled fine for about 1-2 minutes and just shut off. No engine codes, no signs of anything funny with the electronics(cluster, idrive, etc). And now it will not restart.

I thought it may have been gelled(less than 1/4 tank, below 10 degrees at night + wind chill) so I pushed it in the garage, cranked the heat, threw some 9-1-1 in the tank and let it sit. No luck. Here is a video of what it is doing.
Hard to tell in the video but are you stopping the cranking or does it stop. I know when I was trying to get mine to start after 10m of sitting and the fuel lines open it would crank continuously if I let it.
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      01-10-2017, 05:06 PM   #52
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It stops on its own. Cranks like it does in the video then stops unless I let off the button and try again.

Battery is good, I had it on a charger over night because it was a little low when it was outside. Wouldn't even crank.
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      01-10-2017, 05:11 PM   #53
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It stops on its own. Cranks like it does in the video then stops unless I let off the button and try again.

Battery is good, I had it on a charger over night because it was a little low when it was outside. Wouldn't even crank.
Try key in, foot on brake and one touch the button. should not have to hold it to start. Just to see what it does
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      01-10-2017, 05:11 PM   #54
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Weird, I wonder if it's some sort of security issue. It should keep cranking as long as you hold the button down.
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      01-10-2017, 05:18 PM   #55
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Scan the car for any stored codes. Also, you can check your fuses and also ensure your DDE connections are all secure, just in case they were previously messed with.

Welcome to the forum neighbor. I'm in Dutchess cty
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      01-10-2017, 05:26 PM   #56
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Try key in, foot on brake and one touch the button. should not have to hold it to start. Just to see what it does
It does the same when just doing a normal touch and release of the start button.

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Weird, I wonder if it's some sort of security issue. It should keep cranking as long as you hold the button down.
That's what I was also thinking, but there is no notification or warning of that. The only thing different I can think of is I grabbed the other key which has an odd sticker on the backside(I uploaded a picture to show, unsure if it will show)




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Scan the car for any stored codes. Also, you can check your fuses and also ensure your DDE connections are all secure, just in case they were previously messed with.

Welcome to the forum neighbor. I'm in Dutchess cty
It does have a couple stored codes but nothing that I would think would cause this. They come up as "permanent", one is a glow plug cyl 6 and the other I can't remember off the top of my head.
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      01-10-2017, 05:27 PM   #57
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Glowplug error won't stop the car from starting.. Stupid idea, lock the car then unlock it and try starting it again.
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      01-10-2017, 05:30 PM   #58
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Glowplug error won't stop the car from starting.. Stupid idea, lock the car then unlock it and try starting it again.
Did that when I grabbed the other key, same results :/
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      01-10-2017, 09:04 PM   #59
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Try filling your lower def tank.
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      01-11-2017, 05:36 PM   #60
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Well, update... filled DEF tank and also unhooked ground wire on battery for about 45 mins.

No luck. Frustrated at this point
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      01-11-2017, 06:16 PM   #61
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Give Jess a call at Bohl diesel. He's a busy guy and I have had tough time getting in touch with him, but a very well respected wizard around the 335D and diesels in general. He may be able to help you out since you are likely local to his shop.
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      01-11-2017, 06:25 PM   #62
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Have you pulled codes yet?
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      01-12-2017, 04:18 PM   #63
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I had this 3 yrs ago. Was at dealer for 3 weeks. They threw parts at it but never found confirmed cause.

It did come BACK with a momentary code for RPM crankshaft sensor. (Was not present when it went in). But they may have messed with that during troubleshooting
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      01-12-2017, 05:18 PM   #64
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I know crank sensor failures in the TDI's can lead to a no-start condition. Might be something to look into.
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I can't make my own thread because I'm a new member but, I just purchased a '11 335d. I drove it about 150 miles(all highway) home with no issue. Test drive fine, no foreseeable issues.

I since have had the car sitting(outside, upstate NY) for about a week. Started it the other day and the car idled fine for about 1-2 minutes and just shut off. No engine codes, no signs of anything funny with the electronics(cluster, idrive, etc). And now it will not restart.

I thought it may have been gelled(less than 1/4 tank, below 10 degrees at night + wind chill) so I pushed it in the garage, cranked the heat, threw some 9-1-1 in the tank and let it sit. No luck. Here is a video of what it is doing.
If your fuel gelled, you might have a wax plug in the filter. Dumping 911 into the tank wont reach the filter. You will have to pull it off and pour it into the filter, or just replace it. The engine running for a couple of minutes sounds like the cp3 sucked all of the fuel out of the line and if a wax plug is blocking the fuel line, I would not keep cranking the engine as the hpfp is not being lubricated.
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      01-14-2017, 12:39 PM   #66
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pull your back seat, and jump the low pressure pump, see if it kicks on

There is a write up for it in the Dont fear the fuel filter thread.

I would also just grab a fuel filter and toss it in, cheap insurance and pretty simple to do.
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