[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Walked U

Ya I went over to JB also ever since my throttle blips have gone away.

I didn't know you switched over. Good stuff!

[Walked U]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I didn't know you switched over. Good stuff!

Ya ive had JB for a while but I keep my procede also.

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by midlife

i do not want to start a war, but you answered your own question when you said:
Not sure why you think the JB is a better tune when there isn't a stable Procede tune for your set-up out yet.

the procede tune has been out for how loooong now ?
....and that dp map has been a work in progress for how looooong now ?
...lastly didn´t down4it say the procede team did not help him fix his boost problems?
this last point is inexcusable.

at the very least in HIS procede case;
if it looks like ¨something¨, and smells like ¨something¨, then ... i think you can fill in the rest.

come on, just let down4it enjoy his new trouble free tune without silly comments like yours.

my 2 cents

The key here is his "set-up". And come on now, the DP map is in testing now...the tunes from Vishnu have been coming out pretty quickly in my opinion (maybe too quickly for V2.01). Also, we're only hearing 1 side, maybe there was a good reason Vishnu isn't assisting?? In the end, he's happy now and that's all that matters. I don't think it's silly to point out that the JB and the PROcede are vastly different tunes. (Of course there is going to be more complexity/issues when you are controlling a lot more parameters).

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by 335lvr

I don't think it's silly to point out that the JB and the PROcede are vastly different tunes. (Of course there is going to be more complexity/issues when you are controlling a lot more parameters).

Yes, this is true. But, it is also not silly to point out which tune is providing the best 1/4 miles times, customer service, performance, etc...

Lets keep this thread on track and not make it a tuner vs tuner war. The OP was simply stating what he has switched over to and why....

to everyone....

[ybbiz34]

It is weird to see all of the people who used to defend Procede despite the limp modes, frustration with customer service, etc. are now criticizing it for the exact same reasons.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

It is weird to see all of the people who used to defend Procede despite the limp modes, frustration with customer service, etc. are now criticizing it for the exact same reasons.

+1 I wouldn't want those guys in my foxhole

OP I am happy you have found satisfaction.

[RiXst3r]

People critisize the JB2 for being so "simple"... but I think thats why it really shines. The more your trick the ECU, the more confused it gets... the JB just takes a good thing and makes it better, the PROcede retunes the entire engine and completely takes over boost control.

Both have their benefits and downsides... its really up to what you prefer.

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Both have their benefits and downsides... its really up to what you prefer.

Agreed with the above..

And it is also how you use the tools provided. If tools are not provided to watch and make adjustments, the system becomes simpler and less prone to problems. Capability in the hands of the inexperienced can lead to problems.

[midlife]

Originally Posted by Walked U

Ya I went over to JB also ever since my throttle blips have gone away.

hey walked U, you have been missing for a while no?

happy to hear your problems are currently solved.
you have so much custom stuff in your car, how is it runnng with JB?

are you on JB2R ?

cheers

[midlife]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

he said: Oh yeah I do own a 335i and if you have one for me to try out, I'll gladly try it out.
and then you said: I do. All for the great price of $508 for JB2HHR.....

i see you got my back, thanks

[Walked U]

Originally Posted by midlife

hey walked U, you have been missing for a while no?

happy to hear your problems are currently solved.
you have so much custom stuff in your car, how is it runnng with JB?

are you on JB2R ?

cheers

Ya been busy with the new job.

I just took off my procede about a week or so ago and ran stock for a week with no problems. Then put on just a regular JB2 and everthing is still good no blips or anything.

Ill keep testing it out just to make sure.

You can tell that just regular jb2 is slower than procede but I put it on because I couldnt handle stock boost and the blips.

Ive talked to terry and ill be testing some custom H pills for him this weekend for some of the more aggressive users that wanna run a little bit more power on pump gas still.

Ill give everyone a heads up.

Basicly going to get a 14.5 psi JB "H" product that will peak 14.5 and try not to die down below 10 psi. Its basicly its just an option for the people that are getting boost spikes with procede.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Walked U

Ya been busy with the new job.

I just took off my procede about a week or so ago and ran stock for a week with no problems. Then put on just a regular JB2 and everthing is still good no blips or anything.

Ill keep testing it out just to make sure.

You can tell that just regular jb2 is slower than procede but I put it on because I couldnt handle stock boost and the blips.

Ive talked to terry and ill be testing some custom H pills for him this weekend for some of the more aggressive users that wanna run a little bit more power on pump gas still.

Ill give everyone a heads up.

Basicly going to get a 14.5 psi JB "H" product that will peak 14.5 and try not to die down below 10 psi. Its basicly its just an option for the people that are getting boost spikes with procede.

That's cool Sharewin.
Is he going with a high resistor "H" pill to get that 14.5 psi peak?
Kinda like an "HH" put using just one resistor with higher value instead of two lower value ones?

[Walked U]

Originally Posted by Driver72

That's cool Sharewin.
Is he going with a high resistor "H" pill to get that 14.5 psi peak?
Kinda like an "HH" put using just one resistor with higher value instead of two lower value ones?

Im not too sure myself. I would think so tho.

[stillclaimndp]

wow, the mighty V2.02 Warrior WalkedU is JB now too... I guess I've been away too long I lost all my comrads =P Still undefeated on the streets with V2 btw, gotta get to the track some time, although im afraid, 6mt just dont put down good times regardless of the tune ok it's the drivers

[down4it]

Originally Posted by 335lvr

The key here is his "set-up". And come on now, the DP map is in testing now...the tunes from Vishnu have been coming out pretty quickly in my opinion (maybe too quickly for V2.01). Also, we're only hearing 1 side, maybe there was a good reason Vishnu isn't assisting?? In the end, he's happy now and that's all that matters. I don't think it's silly to point out that the JB and the PROcede are vastly different tunes. (Of course there is going to be more complexity/issues when you are controlling a lot more parameters).

There is no reason, they are just busy and theres not much they can do considering im 600 miles away... I am all good with Vishnu, just want to see what happens with the new maps and everything. I mean if for around $500 you can get a piggyback that outperforms one that is $1500 then why not run it on my car? I will go dyno and the numbers will speak for themselves. I dont know what they are gonna be but i know what i got with the procede and it was up there, its just that i would rather not blow up my motor because you know as well as i do that if i blew up my engine Vishnu would not do anything about it.

[down4it]

Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

wow, the mighty V2.02 Warrior WalkedU is JB now too... I guess I've been away too long I lost all my comrads =P Still undefeated on the streets with V2 btw, gotta get to the track some time, although im afraid, 6mt just dont put down good times regardless of the tune ok it's the drivers

If you ever meet up with the 335 guys for some runs let me know, i would be down to do some runs to get a comparison...

[down4it]

Originally Posted by Walked U

Ya been busy with the new job.

I just took off my procede about a week or so ago and ran stock for a week with no problems. Then put on just a regular JB2 and everthing is still good no blips or anything.

Ill keep testing it out just to make sure.

You can tell that just regular jb2 is slower than procede but I put it on because I couldnt handle stock boost and the blips.

Ive talked to terry and ill be testing some custom H pills for him this weekend for some of the more aggressive users that wanna run a little bit more power on pump gas still.

Ill give everyone a heads up.

Basicly going to get a 14.5 psi JB "H" product that will peak 14.5 and try not to die down below 10 psi. Its basicly its just an option for the people that are getting boost spikes with procede.

Glad to see your car is running good.

[Tobias1980]

down4it and other people who have tried both Procede and JB, how is the drive ability and throttle response if you compare the diffrent tunes? Which one has the best feeling and comes most close to stock in this sense?

Maybe someone with Attache experience and Procede/JB experience can chime in and compare?

/Tobias

[hotrod182]

The Procedes seem to put down spectacular dyno numbers. But the Juicebox cars seem to hold their own on the streets.

[fast_lap28]

Originally Posted by Tobias1980

down4it and other people who have tried both Procede and JB, how is the drive ability and throttle response if you compare the diffrent tunes? Which one has the best feeling and comes most close to stock in this sense?

Maybe someone with Attache experience and Procede/JB experience can chime in and compare?

/Tobias

+1 on throttle response comparison

[midlife]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

It is weird to see all of the people who used to defend Procede despite the limp modes, frustration with customer service, etc. are now criticizing it for the exact same reasons.

good and very perceptive point.

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by midlife

good and very perceptive point.

The flavor of the week crowd, fair weather fans, etc.