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      10-18-2018, 02:19 PM   #45
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The thing with transvestites is that they are women. They may look like a guy but they aren't in their mind. They'd be no more interested in looking at a girl than a straight guy would look at another guy.
Oh. My. God.

I would laugh hysterically if I didn't think you were actually serious.

1) They are not women, even if they chop off some bits. They have a Y chromosome. That means they are male. Period. Because, you know, science and stuff.
2) A substantial portion of those who dress in drag or pretend to be women are not gay. To wit, it would be innapropriate for them to be in the bathroom with a girl.




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Yeah, there may be some people who abuse it... but the only time this person will see another girl would be in the hand washing area. Also, current public bathroom designs now just have individual stalls and a common shared hand washing area for everyone. So no more concerns.
1) I don't care if there was only one transvestite on the planet that did it. If that one did it to my daughter, it is not okay.
2) Regarding your new public bathroom comment, I have never come across a bathroom as you describe nor has anyone in my family. Not one.




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The thing with transvestites is that they are women. They may look like a guy but they aren't in their mind. They'd be no more interested in looking at a girl than a straight guy would look at another guy. Plus, women's bathrooms have stalls with doors so it's not exactly like being out in the open. You should be more concerned of a lesbian checking out your daughter than a transvestite doing it - and nothing is stopping a lesbian from entering a women's restroom.

Yeah, there may be some people who abuse it... but the only time this person will see another girl would be in the hand washing area. Also, current public bathroom designs now just have individual stalls and a common shared hand washing area for everyone. So no more concerns.
I guess it doesn't surprise me that this post is from San Francisco. There is so much wrong with your post - so much.
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But I have no problem with all gender bathrooms and people who say they are part of a 3rd sex or whatever. It doesn't affect me so I don't really care.
Having a 3rd bathroom available for 'pick your own gender' folks? Sure thing. Allowing a transvestite to wonder into the same bathroom that underage girls are using? No freaking way.



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So you have no problem with some old guy who says now identifies as a woman going into a bathroom with your teenage daughters?
If there was some dude pretending to be a women in the same bathroom as my daughter, I would have a serious problem with it.
But wouldn't you have the same problem with him (the trans) in the men's room?
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But wouldn't you have the same problem with him (the trans) in the men's room?

Debatable, hence my comment regarding the 'pick your own gender' bathroom option.

But overall, the bulk of transvestites are usually not gay, they are just odd ducks.
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But wouldn't you have the same problem with him (the trans) in the men's room?
I have more of an issue when "A priest walks into a bathroom"
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Disagree.
You'd say that if you did agree so no surprise.
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2) Regarding your new public bathroom comment, I have never come across a bathroom as you describe nor has anyone in my family. Not one.


Good grief.

Maybe you should come out to either coast. There's many of these bathrooms. Individual stalls/rooms for toilets and everyone shares the common handwashing area. Works for families, individuals, all those in between.

Looks like this:


It's a bathroom.. not a locker room, not a place where people walk around naked. People go in, do their dirty thing and come out. There's stalls - no one is seeing anything they wouldn't see in public anyway.
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Maybe you should come out to either coast. There's many of these bathrooms. Individual stalls/rooms for toilets and everyone shares the common handwashing area. Works for families, individuals, all those in between.

Looks like this:

It's a bathroom.. not a locker room, not a place where people walk around naked. People go in, do their dirty thing and come out. There's stalls - no one is seeing anything they wouldn't see in public anyway.


If every bathroom looked like that - then I would not have a problem with any group, gender, or sex using it. That would be fine.

In my travels to 36 different states and 32 different countries, however, I have never seen one of those with my own eyes. I have no doubt that they probably exist, but I imagine they are rare as hens teeth and until 100% of the bathrooms look like that, I don't want laws passed saying it is okay for a dude dressed like a lady to meander into the women's restroom.



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If every bathroom looked like that - then I would not have a problem with any group, gender, or sex using it. That would be fine.

In my travels to 36 different states and 32 different countries, however, I have never seen one of those with my own eyes. I have no doubt that they probably exist, but I imagine they are rare as hens teeth and until 100% of the bathrooms look like that, I don't want laws passed saying it is okay for a dude dressed like a lady to meander into the women's restroom.



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I'm 71 years old, have been to all 50 states, and 20+ foreign countries and have never seen a bathroom like that - never.
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I'm 71 years old, have been to all 50 states, and 20+ foreign countries and have never seen a bathroom like that - never.

Okay - just making sure I wasn't the only one. And I've been to California including LA, Santa Monica, San Francisco, Napa, and many other places - never saw one there, either.

Like I said, I am sure they exist in some places, but one would imagine that they are incredibly rare.
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I'm 71 years old, have been to all 50 states, and 20+ foreign countries and have never seen a bathroom like that - never.
As I said, they're newer designs from the past 10 years or so - usually in larger venues. I've seen them in bars, restaurants and malls. Incredibly efficient as everyone shares the same area.
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Got to love this forum. We started out talking about Snow White and quickly moved on to would you rather wizz next to a gay person or a transvestite.
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Maybe you should come out to either coast. There's many of these bathrooms. Individual stalls/rooms for toilets and everyone shares the common handwashing area. Works for families, individuals, all those in between.

Looks like this:

It's a bathroom.. not a locker room, not a place where people walk around naked. People go in, do their dirty thing and come out. There's stalls - no one is seeing anything they wouldn't see in public anyway.


If every bathroom looked like that - then I would not have a problem with any group, gender, or sex using it. That would be fine.

In my travels to 36 different states and 32 different countries, however, I have never seen one of those with my own eyes. I have no doubt that they probably exist, but I imagine they are rare as hens teeth and until 100% of the bathrooms look like that, I don't want laws passed saying it is okay for a dude dressed like a lady to meander into the women's restroom.



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Sorry I couldn't resist. It's the 1st thing that popped into my mind when reading your post
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Got to love this forum. We started out talking about Snow White and quickly moved on to would you rather wizz next to a gay person or a transvestite.
You made me laugh out loud with this one. Haha.
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Oh. My. God.

I would laugh hysterically if I didn't think you were actually serious.

They have a Y chromosome. That means they are male. Period. Because, you know, science and stuff.

Some people actually don't understand your reference to the Y vs. X chromosome so I'll add....

The X chromosome is carried by the female (it's actually double X - no Y involved) whereas males are XY.

When humanoids mate, the female side of the equation is kind of the key here. If the male Y chromosome couples with her X, you end up with a MALE offspring (a combination of her X and his Y). If his X side couples with her, you end up with an XX offspring which is FEMALE. The cycle has been repeated forever and ever.

Simple easy....
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Disagree.
You'd say that if you did agree so no surprise.
No, I wouldn't.

This isn't about political correctness and that sure as hell isn't what got Trump elected.
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No, I wouldn't.

This isn't about political correctness and that sure as hell isn't what got Trump elected.
Disagree.

I said PART of what got him elected.


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As I said, they're newer designs from the past 10 years or so - usually in larger venues. I've seen them in bars, restaurants and malls. Incredibly efficient as everyone shares the same area.

Yes because in the current dark age climate of the #me2 movement that we are living in, what we need now more than ever is unisex bathrooms. I mean what can possibly go wrong.
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As I said, they're newer designs from the past 10 years or so - usually in larger venues. I've seen them in bars, restaurants and malls. Incredibly efficient as everyone shares the same area.

Yes because in the current dark age climate of the #me2 movement that we are living in, what we need now more than ever is unisex bathrooms. I mean what can possibly go wrong.
No man, what he's talking about is how it should be...
Toilets are kept private, and anyone can use, and sinks are shared in an open area.
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