Brake Fluid: ATE Type 200 vs. Motul DOT 5.1

jc_bmw · 08-10-2015, 12:40 PM

Need to change my brake fluid soon. Was wondering which one people recommend? I was thinking between the ATE Type 200 or the Motul 5.1. ATE just seems to be harder to find locally. What do people perfer?

08-10-2015, 02:09 PM

I went with Motul 5.1 given that the viscosity is much lower than other "high performance" brake fluids, especially in low temps:
https://www.motul.com/system/product...pdf?1335380510

mmmnot · 08-10-2015, 03:05 PM

Just went with the ATE Type 200 based off of reviews and my feedback from Turner.

feuer · 08-10-2015, 06:52 PM

ATE Super 200 - DOT 4 - 536ºF (280ºC) / 382ºF (194ºC)
vs
Motul DOT 5.1 - DOT 5.1 - 509ºF (265ºC) / 365ºF (185ºC)

Considering ATE is half the price I struggle to see the dilemma

Tom Droze · 08-10-2015, 07:36 PM

I use the ATE Type 200 with very good results. For primary street application use the other thing to consider, which in my mind is just as important as the boiling point is the moisture absorption rate of the brake fluid. Most race application brake fluids have a very high moisture absorption rate, which means the brake fluid absorbs moisture quickly and has to be changed more frequently, and as the moistures builds up the boiling point goes down (wet boiling point) and the risk of corrosion goes up.

jc_bmw · 08-10-2015, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

ATE Super 200 - DOT 4 - 536ºF (280ºC) / 382ºF (194ºC)
vs
Motul DOT 5.1 - DOT 5.1 - 509ºF (265ºC) / 365ºF (185ºC)

Considering ATE is half the price I struggle to see the dilemma

For me the 2 bottles of Motul DOT 5.1 cost a little less than the ATE Type 200...

Probably going to stick with the ATE but just harder to find locally.

mmmnot · 08-11-2015, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jc_bmw

For me the 2 bottles of Motul DOT 5.1 cost a little less than the ATE Type 200...

Probably going to stick with the ATE but just harder to find locally.

I just got mine from Turner Motorsports. Arrived in 3 days. Just order 2 extra every time so you there's no need to wait

08-11-2015, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feuer

ATE Super 200 - DOT 4 - 536ºF (280ºC) / 382ºF (194ºC)
vs
Motul DOT 5.1 - DOT 5.1 - 509ºF (265ºC) / 365ºF (185ºC)

Considering ATE is half the price I struggle to see the dilemma

What good are those specs when the fluid will be used in a street car? As mentioned, I'd be more interested in moisture absorption rate and viscosity.

Tom Droze · 08-11-2015, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FCobra94

What good are those specs when the fluid will be used in a street car? As mentioned, I'd be more interested in moisture absorption rate and viscosity.

That's why I went with ATE 200 because its moisture absorption rate is similar to BMW brake fluid.

Meeni · 08-12-2015, 10:36 PM

I have ATE and it's been working very well.

Stucks · 08-13-2015, 11:15 AM

torque rt700 for people who are hardcore lol

mmmnot · 08-13-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

torque rt700 for people who are hardcore lol

What makes it so metal?

Stucks · 08-13-2015, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmnot

What makes it so metal?

683 degree dry boiling point, 439 degree wet boiling point.

mmmnot · 08-13-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmmnot

What makes it so metal?

683 degree dry boiling point, 439 degree wet boiling point.

Geesh. Good for the south I reckon lol

08-10-2015, 12:40 PM	#1
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FCobra94 Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	I went with Motul 5.1 given that the viscosity is much lower than other "high performance" brake fluids, especially in low temps: https://www.motul.com/system/product...pdf?1335380510 Last edited by FCobra94; 08-10-2015 at 02:27 PM..
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feuer Major General 4276 Rep 9,206 Posts Drives: wife crazy! Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (5)	ATE Super 200 - DOT 4 - 536ºF (280ºC) / 382ºF (194ºC) vs Motul DOT 5.1 - DOT 5.1 - 509ºF (265ºC) / 365ºF (185ºC) Considering ATE is half the price I struggle to see the dilemma
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Tom Droze Major 413 Rep 1,286 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 328i (e92) Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona iTrader: (0)	I use the ATE Type 200 with very good results. For primary street application use the other thing to consider, which in my mind is just as important as the boiling point is the moisture absorption rate of the brake fluid. Most race application brake fluids have a very high moisture absorption rate, which means the brake fluid absorbs moisture quickly and has to be changed more frequently, and as the moistures builds up the boiling point goes down (wet boiling point) and the risk of corrosion goes up. __________________ 2012 Jet Black 328i Coupe / ESS Tuning Gen. 2 Supercharger / Evolution Racewerks Oil Cooler / BMS Oil Catch Can / BMW Performance Exhaust with Dinan Y Pipe / Eibach Pro Kit Springs / Koni FSD Shocks / MFactory LSD & Differential Bushings / Performance Rear Trailing Arms / BMW Performance Strut Brace / Stop Tech Slotted Rotors / Hawk HPS 5.0 / SS Brake Lines / Brass Guide Pins / M3 Front Control Arms, 28 MM FSB, Engine Cowl, and DCT Paddle Shifters / Michelin PSS / APEX ARC-8
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