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      08-31-2018, 06:31 PM   #1
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ER Actress killed by police in South Pasadena

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/van...ce-1202923337/

RIP. Surprised with the me too movement this didn't gain more traction.
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      08-31-2018, 06:52 PM   #2
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Cowardliness? You're kidding, right? She raised and pointed a weapon at police! What did you expect them to do? "Mam. Excuse me... Is that weapon you're about to point at us... Is it a real gun?"
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Wow, your nation really has been neutered, huh?
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Hope you are posting from the home for the retarded, so I can cut you some slack. This isn't a cop shooting a guy in the back, you know. You are calling him a coward because he wasn't willing to take a chance that the crazy lady didn't have a real gun?
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Let's see how you would react when confronted with this:



And we're not even talking about guns that some one would paint an orange tip on a real gun to try to pass it off as a toy gun.
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Sounds to me that you’re a “Monday morning quarterback” Tree-hugging type of douchebag. Unless you step up to do the job, and are in that specific situation...NOONE on this forum or the world should have any say in this!! Thanks for making my blood boil...you deserve a kick in the nads. DOUCHER!!


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So many triggered Only a brave person can understand my point of view.

I've been in a life threatening situation 3 times (guns involved, otherwise more). The first one I was a bit scared but decided to defuse the situation even though I knew I might very easily get killed. The other two times all I felt was adrenaline and again I successfully dealt with both situations despite a gun pointing at me. And they were real guns and I knew it.

There is a saying - only a cowardly dog will bite.
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So many triggered Only a brave person can understand my point of view.

I've been in a life threatening situation 3 times (guns involved, otherwise more). The first one I was a bit scared but decided to defuse the situation even though I knew I might very easily get killed. The other two times all I felt was adrenaline and again I successfully dealt with both situations despite a gun pointing at me. And they were real guns and I knew it.

There is a saying - only a cowardly dog will bite.
Police officers have to make split second decisions. Don't ever compare yourself with what law enforcement has to deal with on a daily basis.
Like the other 8 posters said in various ways.. your wrong.. and way off base.
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It seems like cowardliness is the main criteria to become an armed policeman in the US. They shoot people just for raising their voice or flailing their arms about.
Meanwhile in UK the cops are too pussy to fight actual crime so they patrol the web looking for hate speech. The criminals in the UK pretty much bend over and fuck your cops.
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So many triggered Only a brave person can understand my point of view.

I've been in a life threatening situation 3 times (guns involved, otherwise more). The first one I was a bit scared but decided to defuse the situation even though I knew I might very easily get killed. The other two times all I felt was adrenaline and again I successfully dealt with both situations despite a gun pointing at me. And they were real guns and I knew it.

There is a saying - only a cowardly dog will bite.
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So many triggered Only a brave person can understand my point of view.

I've been in a life threatening situation 3 times (guns involved, otherwise more). The first one I was a bit scared but decided to defuse the situation even though I knew I might very easily get killed. The other two times all I felt was adrenaline and again I successfully dealt with both situations despite a gun pointing at me. And they were real guns and I knew it.

There is a saying - only a cowardly dog will bite.
Yes so despite what you think is defusing the situation that cowardly dog can bite. I would never put my life in that irrational persons hands and would put them down.

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So many triggered Only a brave person can understand my point of view.

I've been in a life threatening situation 3 times (guns involved, otherwise more). The first one I was a bit scared but decided to defuse the situation even though I knew I might very easily get killed. The other two times all I felt was adrenaline and again I successfully dealt with both situations despite a gun pointing at me. And they were real guns and I knew it.

There is a saying - only a cowardly dog will bite.
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zx10guys thank you for making me laugh you cheered me up.

Fun fact:

If a gun is pointed at you and you are not dead yet there is a reason for it. It could of course be that the gun is fake or not loaded but if the gun is real and you are still alive it's because the gunman doesn't really wants to kill you. All you have to do is face the situation and deal with it. But it takes a bigger man.
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If a gun is pointed at you and you are not dead yet there is a reason for it. It could of course be that the gun is fake or not loaded but if the gun is real and you are still alive it's because the gunman doesn't really wants to kill you. All you have to do is face the situation and deal with it. But it takes a bigger man.
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zx10guys thank you for making me laugh you cheered me up.

Fun fact:

If a gun is pointed at you and you are not dead yet there is a reason for it. It could of course be that the gun is fake or not loaded but if the gun is real and you are still alive it's because the gunman doesn't really wants to kill you. All you have to do is face the situation and deal with it. But it takes a bigger man.
Ahh, the Breets.

LOL... You have no idea what you are talking about. As you are a Brit, that is common.
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zx10guys thank you for making me laugh you cheered me up.

Fun fact:

If a gun is pointed at you and you are not dead yet there is a reason for it. It could of course be that the gun is fake or not loaded but if the gun is real and you are still alive it's because the gunman doesn't really wants to kill you. All you have to do is face the situation and deal with it. But it takes a bigger man.
I think we found the guy who’s been day drinking heavily... Clearly extremely dizzy.
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zx10guys thank you for making me laugh you cheered me up.

Fun fact:

If a gun is pointed at you and you are not dead yet there is a reason for it. It could of course be that the gun is fake or not loaded but if the gun is real and you are still alive it's because the gunman doesn't really wants to kill you. All you have to do is face the situation and deal with it. But it takes a bigger man.
You sound like that couple who decided to bicycle through ISIS territory, and couldn't imagine any harm could come to them.

Except you're criticizing someone else, and using your own alleged experiences as justification.

Talking about how un-cowardly you are - on an Internet forum...
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Did any of you actually read the article? According to the article, here’s what happened:
“Officers were called to Marquez’s home in the 1100 block of Fremont Avenue by a landlord to check on her welfare. When the officers arrived around 12 p.m., she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called out paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, Marquez, 49, armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire, said Sheriff’s Lt. Joe Mendoza.”

So:
1) Marquez was suffering from seizures, which is why the officers were called in the first place. Clearly, she was suffering from some kind of mental disorder.
2) A bunch of people were with her at the time: the officers, the paramedics, themental health clinician.
3). Somehow, she took it upon herself, despite being watched by all those people, to make her way to where the BB gun was located and pointed it at the officers.

Something doesn’t seem to add up... or that may exactly be what happened. But any reasonable person has got to have more than a few questions, such as:

What happened during those 90 minutes, where she went from seizure, being attended to by multiple professionals, to BB-gun wielding maniac?

Why was she even left alone or even allowed to access a BB gun while being attended to?

Again, it may be that the officers were completely in the right, but I hope they were wearing body cams; it would help understand the 90-minute gap in the article.
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Did any of you actually read the article? According to the article, here’s what happened:
“Officers were called to Marquez’s home in the 1100 block of Fremont Avenue by a landlord to check on her welfare. When the officers arrived around 12 p.m., she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called out paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, Marquez, 49, armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire, said Sheriff’s Lt. Joe Mendoza.”

So:
1) Marquez was suffering from seizures, which is why the officers were called in the first place. Clearly, she was suffering from some kind of mental disorder.
2) A bunch of people were with her at the time: the officers, the paramedics, themental health clinician.
3). Somehow, she took it upon herself, despite being watched by all those people, to make her way to where the BB gun was located and pointed it at the officers.

Something doesn’t seem to add up... or that may exactly be what happened. But any reasonable person has got to have more than a few questions, such as:

What happened during those 90 minutes, where she went from seizure, being attended to by multiple professionals, to BB-gun wielding maniac?

Why was she even left alone or even allowed to access a BB gun while being attended to?

Again, it may be that the officers were completely in the right, but I hope they were wearing body cams; it would help understand the 90-minute gap in the article.
Nowhere in that article does it say she was “being attended to” by all these medical professionals, it simply says they were called in by the police, and were present at the scene while officers “continued to talk to her”. It may have been that she was barricaded in her home somehow, refusing to let the medical people see her, and that’s why the police were talking to her. This article simply doesn’t provide enough detail.

At any rate, the fact that police were present and negotiating with her on the scene for 90 minutes before this woman escalated the situation is proof enough to me that this wasn’t some trigger-happy hit squad. Sounds like they did what they had to do to protect themselves and the other first responders present from what they perceived to be a lethal threat. Also, believe it or not, suicide by cop is a real thing.
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