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      10-23-2018, 08:26 PM   #1
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Which N54 rod bearings to buy?

I needed to inspect my lower end and found that my rod bearings are not spun or "bad" but since the car is apart in my garage I may as well replace the rod bearings since I am already this deep in , they have some scoring, and I already bought the new rod cap bolts. Any bearing brand preferences? I see there are options for shot peened bearings, "KING" brand ones on eBay, etc. but I would like to hear from people who have bought and tried bearings already. I got a look at the numbers on my crank and all 6 of my stock bearings were the "r" designation of Yellow for upper and Red for the lower ones. I have attached some photos of the bottom ones I currently have.
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Scored, but no copper showing? Looking with my phone.

MMPs are about 350 a set.
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Scored, but no copper showing? Looking with my phone.

MMPs are about 350 a set.
No copper showing. But since I am this deep I was thinking I should change them.
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Scored, but no copper showing? Looking with my phone.

MMPs are about 350 a set.
Have you used the MMP ones? I was looking at them as a choice. Mine don't have copper showing yet. Still considering leaving them.
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I am still running stock, but will go with them when Blackstone says to do so. As you are already right there you should install new ones, even if stock. You put the time and effort to get to that point, be proactive and save yourself the trouble having to do them in a year or so.
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I am still running stock, but will go with them when Blackstone says to do so. As you are already right there you should install new ones, even if stock. You put the time and effort to get to that point, be proactive and save yourself the trouble having to do them in a year or so.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. It's a lot of labor to get here, and easy to change them.
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I am still running stock, but will go with them when Blackstone says to do so. As you are already right there you should install new ones, even if stock. You put the time and effort to get to that point, be proactive and save yourself the trouble having to do them in a year or so.
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. It's a lot of labor to get here, and easy to change them.
I ordered some standard ones from MMP. I don't plan to bring this to the track so I should be OK with the regular ones that are improved over the stock ones.
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Do come back with the good results of your effort.
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Do come back with the good results of your effort.
I definitely have to come back and share my triumph or tears. I am sure it will turn out good. I will straighten the windage tray that the rod bolt was scraping on. I removed the metal slivers that the windage tray left in my oil pan. I will have new rod bearings (for longevity, since mine were OK). I also just installed new catless downpipes since I had a bad turbo gasket. I figured if I am doing that job, I may as well put some upgraded pipes back in. I also found 2 more Easter eggs in a cracked left motor mount bracket AND cracked transmission mount bracket that I am replacing as I put things back together. After all that, the car has to run a lot smoother.
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I've putted these German ones few months back.


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Wow you have done a lot of work to your car. Makes me feel like I've done nothing in comparison.
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Wow you have done a lot of work to your car. Makes me feel like I've done nothing in comparison.
Yes, it was my 'dream' to sort it out properly, as I did a lot of miles in it and plan on doing few more still. I'm fortunate to have access to relatively cheap and skillful friendly mechanics whenever I go to Poland.
To be honest I never planned doing all of it, but as in your case, you take stuff off and it sort of makes sense to replace bits while you're there.

Worst / best thing about this platform is, there is always something more you can tweak, improve upon! My current rebuild will make me very happy, but I already know that next year I need to save for double barrel HPFP or PI fueling to unleash new TD04H's ... it never ends
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Which ones did you get? I’m in the same situation. Already torn apart. Might as well
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All is still good!

I am updating that it has been months since installing new "King" brand rod bearings and I have run the hell out of the car with 0 issues to date. The bearings looked just like the OEM ones I swapped out. Besides the issue I had with King accidentally packaging some "0.25" bearings as "STD" (standard) size everything went smooth.

It really was an easy repair once you get to the actual rods. They rods have what's called "cracked" caps so just do one at a time to not mix them up since each one is cracked so that it perfectly fits onto the rod it came from. This is to have a large surface area bite that is exactly aligned.
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Do you have a model number for the bearings you got? Also, any special tools needed? I keep reading that measurements need to be taken and such
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Do you have a model number for the bearings you got? Also, any special tools needed? I keep reading that measurements need to be taken and such
I ordered mine from RaceEng.com, should be here today (hopefully, so I can do the bearings this weekend). Part number is CR222SV, Summit Racing also sells some but they were on backorder when I spoke to them.

The RaceEng website doesn't show the bearings but give them a call, they just got a shipment in.

As for what else to replace, I bought the following:

11247589671 (rod bolts) x 12. I bought 14 in case I'm an idiot somehow.

11410426472 x 1. I'm not 100% positive this is the right part but I believe some of these bolts in the package need to be replaced when you remove the oil pump and baffle.

11417527092 x1. There's a pickup tube gasket that needs replacing as well.

Don't think there's anything else other than that. Wish me luck boys! It may be easier just to leave the bearings alone and not fuck with it but I think it's worthwhile and I already have the engine on the stand so I might as well do it.
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Let me know how it goes. Been doing a bunch of research. And so far I've found that if you don't take measurements and put the right size in and/or have them milled so they fit you'll either be fine, or you engine will blow up lmao
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Let me know how it goes. Been doing a bunch of research. And so far I've found that if you don't take measurements and put the right size in and/or have them milled so they fit you'll either be fine, or you engine will blow up lmao
These will be stock sized bearings from King so I shouldn't have any fitment issues. I will be checking the sizes on the bearing as JonEQuest suggested to ensure they sent all the correct sizes.

With that said, I picked up a handful of Plastigage strips (we need the green ones) at PepBoys the other day and I'll be checking the clearance using the old bolts to torque to spec. Also bought some Permatex assembly lube for the job as well.

This is about as critical of a component as it gets so I'm realllly not trying to fuck anything up. If I do then I should have just left it alone. I should have some pics of the bearings off an 80k mile used 535i junkyard motor for you all to see, idk about you guys but I'd love to see more bearing condition photos on these cars considering all the spun bearings recently.

Oh and I'll probably have some photos of my rekt bearings from the old motor but that'll be a few more weeks lol
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Let me know how it goes. Been doing a bunch of research. And so far I've found that if you don't take measurements and put the right size in and/or have them milled so they fit you'll either be fine, or you engine will blow up lmao
These will be stock sized bearings from King so I shouldn't have any fitment issues. I will be checking the sizes on the bearing as JonEQuest suggested to ensure they sent all the correct sizes.

With that said, I picked up a handful of Plastigage strips (we need the green ones) at PepBoys the other day and I'll be checking the clearance using the old bolts to torque to spec. Also bought some Permatex assembly lube for the job as well.

This is about as critical of a component as it gets so I'm realllly not trying to fuck anything up. If I do then I should have just left it alone. I should have some pics of the bearings off an 80k mile used 535i junkyard motor for you all to see, idk about you guys but I'd love to see more bearing condition photos on these cars considering all the spun bearings recently.

Oh and I'll probably have some photos of my rekt bearings from the old motor but that'll be a few more weeks lol
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Let me know how it goes. Been doing a bunch of research. And so far I've found that if you don't take measurements and put the right size in and/or have them milled so they fit you'll either be fine, or you engine will blow up lmao
These will be stock sized bearings from King so I shouldn't have any fitment issues. I will be checking the sizes on the bearing as JonEQuest suggested to ensure they sent all the correct sizes.

With that said, I picked up a handful of Plastigage strips (we need the green ones) at PepBoys the other day and I'll be checking the clearance using the old bolts to torque to spec. Also bought some Permatex assembly lube for the job as well.

This is about as critical of a component as it gets so I'm realllly not trying to fuck anything up. If I do then I should have just left it alone. I should have some pics of the bearings off an 80k mile used 535i junkyard motor for you all to see, idk about you guys but I'd love to see more bearing condition photos on these cars considering all the spun bearings recently.

Oh and I'll probably have some photos of my rekt bearings from the old motor but that'll be a few more weeks lol
Ya let's us know how it all goes and fitment
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Per MMP the King bearings provide additional clearence over the stock bearings. When I had mine installed the plastigage checks were pretty much right on .002. Stock is .001. As Johny Quest (my spelling) said, do the plastigage checks for your peace of mind.
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Ok. I'm just asking the question here because I don't know. Not trying to be sarcastic etc.

Why are rod bearings having to be replaced on an n54?

From what I've read the internals in this engine are pretty stout from the factory.

I've only read that the rod bearings on the e90 M3 engine have to be replaced.
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Ok. I'm just asking the question here because I don't know. Not trying to be sarcastic etc.

Why are rod bearings having to be replaced on an n54?

From what I've read the internals in this engine are pretty stout from the factory.

I've only read that the rod bearings on the e90 M3 engine have to be replaced.
For me, being an XI I have to pull front half shafts and all and I'm already at that point for the oil pan gasket. Soooo why not. Rather change them while I'm there then have them blow after my single install
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