If your ordered and leased an E92 335i how much info were you given?

-Ryan- · 04-15-2007, 03:23 PM

Did they tell you the Capitalized Cost, MACO, Moneyfactor, buy rate, acquisition cost. Where you able to successfully negotiate any of these down?

The dealer I went to yesterday had a markup of $5000 on all E92 coupes and according to my CA (who's my nephew) said they were selling alot at the price. Mainly to rich american-indian's who have enough money to not worry about bargaining. Anyways, the only info I could get was a supposed $1500 off msrp (46800 msrp) with $2000 total drive off, 60% residual yielding $713 (after 7.75% sales tax) monthly payment. They wouldn't really give me any other numbers like MF so I said I told them I need to think about it.

It's a real bitch trying to bargain on a car in such high demand.

SteveMD · 04-15-2007, 03:45 PM

If leasing, you simply have to negotiate the 'out the door' price of the car first. Just as if you are buying. $1500 off doesn't sound bad on an E92.

If you are leasing through BMWFS, the residual is fixed. The MF is listed here: http://bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 along with the correct residual.

The dealer can mark up the MF by 0.0004 (1%).

The aquisition fee is $625. It can be marked up by $200.

With that info, you should be able to calculate the payment.

Don't forget to add your state taxes.

-Ryan- · 04-15-2007, 04:03 PM

So with a lot of guessing as to where they are putting different amounts, does this look like a good deal? I had to estimate the MF and the other numbers and didn't know where to put MACO into the whole equation. I was basically trying to get close to the $713 a month and $2000 driveoff.

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SteveMD · 04-15-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ryan-

So with a lot of guessing as to where they are putting different amounts, does this look like a good deal? I had to estimate the MF and the other numbers and didn't know where to put MACO into the whole equation. I was basically trying to get close to the $713 a month and $2000 driveoff.

http://www.autoleaseadvisers.com/cal...ubmit=Continue

A good deal on a lease is getting the negotiated price of the car down as low as possible, keeping the 'buy rate' on the MF and keeping the aquisition fee at $625.

If you can do that, yes it is a good deal.

Those are the only three variables in a BMW lease.

I live in MD. I have no idea what a good deal is in CA, but if you are happy with the negotiated price, you have to be in the ballpark.

BMW F22 · 04-15-2007, 05:03 PM

honestly I dont think that's a good deal at all.

a rough calculation showed that you'd end up paying over $27k over 3 years. Have you considered buying the car?? If I were you I would definitely considering buying the car with European Delivery.

Lets assuming an MSRP of $47,000 for easy calculation purposes.
Get $500 over ED invoice and that's a savings of about $6k. Take $1500-2000off for the trip and you'd end up saving $4k.

Now since there are no MACO or training fees with ED, you'd save another $600 or so. So basically $47k MSRP - $5500 ($6k- 500 dealer profit)= $41,500 + 10% (tax & license stuff)= $45,650.

Put $5k down and your payment should come out to about $700 for 5 years (60 months). I just think that it's crazy for paying almost 60% of the car over 3 years.

Either buy it or lease it with ED and utilize the Multiple Security Deposits (MSD) to lower your monthly payments.

04-15-2007, 03:23 PM	#1
-Ryan- First Class Privates 29 Rep 437 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rancho Mirage, CA iTrader: (1)	If your ordered and leased an E92 335i how much info were you given? Did they tell you the Capitalized Cost, MACO, Moneyfactor, buy rate, acquisition cost. Where you able to successfully negotiate any of these down? The dealer I went to yesterday had a markup of $5000 on all E92 coupes and according to my CA (who's my nephew) said they were selling alot at the price. Mainly to rich american-indian's who have enough money to not worry about bargaining. Anyways, the only info I could get was a supposed $1500 off msrp (46800 msrp) with $2000 total drive off, 60% residual yielding $713 (after 7.75% sales tax) monthly payment. They wouldn't really give me any other numbers like MF so I said I told them I need to think about it. It's a real bitch trying to bargain on a car in such high demand.
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SteveMD Colonel 195 Rep 2,485 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 535i MSport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raventown! iTrader: (3)	If leasing, you simply have to negotiate the 'out the door' price of the car first. Just as if you are buying. $1500 off doesn't sound bad on an E92. If you are leasing through BMWFS, the residual is fixed. The MF is listed here: http://bimmerfest.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=20 along with the correct residual. The dealer can mark up the MF by 0.0004 (1%). The aquisition fee is $625. It can be marked up by $200. With that info, you should be able to calculate the payment. Don't forget to add your state taxes. __________________ 2006 E90 330i (retired) 2009 E90 335i (retired) 2012 E70 X5 50i M Sport (retired) 2016 F10 535i M Sport
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-Ryan- First Class Privates 29 Rep 437 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rancho Mirage, CA iTrader: (1)	So with a lot of guessing as to where they are putting different amounts, does this look like a good deal? I had to estimate the MF and the other numbers and didn't know where to put MACO into the whole equation. I was basically trying to get close to the $713 a month and $2000 driveoff. http://www.autoleaseadvisers.com/cal...ubmit=Continue
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BMW F22 Major General 3566 Rep 9,788 Posts Drives: ///M235i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (8)	honestly I dont think that's a good deal at all. a rough calculation showed that you'd end up paying over $27k over 3 years. Have you considered buying the car?? If I were you I would definitely considering buying the car with European Delivery. Lets assuming an MSRP of $47,000 for easy calculation purposes. Get $500 over ED invoice and that's a savings of about $6k. Take $1500-2000off for the trip and you'd end up saving $4k. Now since there are no MACO or training fees with ED, you'd save another $600 or so. So basically $47k MSRP - $5500 ($6k- 500 dealer profit)= $41,500 + 10% (tax & license stuff)= $45,650. Put $5k down and your payment should come out to about $700 for 5 years (60 months). I just think that it's crazy for paying almost 60% of the car over 3 years. Either buy it or lease it with ED and utilize the Multiple Security Deposits (MSD) to lower your monthly payments.
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