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      07-22-2018, 06:21 PM   #45
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If I'm being fair one of the reasons why I ended up selling my Giulia TI and getting the M3 is because of the dealership experience. It's a bit varied in some cases can be a pain to get to depending on your location.

There's a big difference between an Alfa / Maserati dealership, and an Alfa / Fiat / Chrysler / Dodge / Jeep dealership.

As others have mentioned the quality / reliability has been pretty good thus far, so if Alfa can continue to improve the dealership / service experience, I would absolutely consider them again.
That's the one thing that scares me about Alfa, the distance from my area to a dealership and service department is over an hour one way. I'd been looking at the Giulia Ti and am trying to schedule a test drive within the next two weeks. Love the looks of the car but I owned an 164 LS in the early 00's and the reliability was a nightmare as was finding someone to service it. Glad that others are having decent experiences with reliability of the Giulia, kinda gives others some hope if they're looking to switch.
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Was going back and forth myself between a Giulia Ti sport and the 340...bottom line is FCA reliability is super questionable and I got a better deal on the 340 than I could for the Giulia. The 340 outperforms the Giulia in speed but I will say the handling/steering feel is incredible in the Giulia. Both have good tuning/mod options available on the market but people on the Giulia forums are celebrating going 1800 miles with no issues lol. It shouldn’t be like that when you’re spending 50-60k on a new car. Plus no 6spd Manual available ��
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
The take rate on 6MT are low in general. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Alfa to do it if their Giulia sales are still pretty bad in the US. That or their business strategy is different.

I always get the feeling if Alfa Romero wasn't under the FCA, they would do better.
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
The take rate on 6MT are low in general. It wouldn't make a lot of sense for Alfa to do it if their Giulia sales are still pretty bad in the US. That or their business strategy is different.

I always get the feeling if Alfa Romero wasn't under the FCA, they would do better.
I totally get it, but it seems that they'd offer a manual at some rate. I remember when they initially offered it for the Quadrifoglio model but pulled it at the last minute citing sales issues. I understand the business model but at LEAST offer it in some form.

I too feel that if they weren't run by FCA things would be slightly different. C'est la vie...
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Anyone else notice this dude made this thread as his first post and has a total of 3 posts, all in this thread? Hasn't really been back for discussion, didn't reply to questions when he came back to make another promotional post. Kinda feels like marketing or a bot to me...
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Anyone else notice this dude made this thread as his first post and has a total of 3 posts, all in this thread? Hasn't really been back for discussion, didn't reply to questions when he came back to make another promotional post. Kinda feels like marketing or a bot to me...
He must work for Alfa
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Anyone else notice this dude made this thread as his first post and has a total of 3 posts, all in this thread? Hasn't really been back for discussion, didn't reply to questions when he came back to make another promotional post. Kinda feels like marketing or a bot to me...
He must work for Alfa
Lol. wonder if the same post is copy/pasted on and Audi forum except claiming to have owned a bunch of Audi's first.
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
You know BMW is not offering a manual in the G20 also, correct?
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
You know BMW is not offering a manual in the G20 also, correct?
I did not, wowzers! Manuals are pretty much dead altogether it seems. Sad
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They aren't even putting a manual in the base entry model?! Like at all??
You know BMW is not offering a manual in the G20 also, correct?
I did not, wowzers! Manuals are pretty much dead altogether it seems. Sad
A4 and A5 have them, but no S or RS cars.
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I had driven manual my entire life before getting the Alfa, and honestly it's the best implementation of an automatic / paddle shifters I've experienced (only second to PDK). I'm particularly familiar with DSG / S-Tronic from Audi.

I really wasn't missing the manual at all, in the 1 year I had the car. I'm back in a manual now in my new to me F80 M3.

ZF8 transmission with paddles in the Alfa really provided the best of both worlds.

I know I'm on a BMW forum, but I think it's way better than the DCT. I'm sure I'm going to get flammed for this..

Obviously in straight up performance the DCT is better, but I test drove a DCT M3 when I was shopping around and good lord the confusion at low speeds is ridiculous.

With all the talk about the Alfa's brakes I'd put the DCT in the same boat. I'm sure you get used to it, but the DCT was an immediate NO for me after the test drive.

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