[boom]

WHere are they? The OFT doesn't support it yet but logs can be taken with the bavarian technic tool.

THe stage 0 and stage 1 are described as being appropriate for stock hardware - why have two then? How are you supposed to evaluate which one is appropriate for your car?

These maps are different and so logging must have been used in their development. Logging had to have been used for any map development. Why weren't these logs presented with the introduction of the device?

I'm not trying to be a troll but this product has been out since 7/4 and no logs of what it is doing have been presented. I am seriously considering purchasing a tune in the very near future. At this price point the OFT is attractive. Not without more data however.

[scottp999]

- Boom, initial logging from OFT is being released hopefully this week. I would hold off on a purchase until you are satisfied with the data you want. A lot of these purchasers may not have a BT cable.

Me, i just want a way to get the extra fueling map for larger twin turbos to run in the background with procede map4 active. Half off Cobb sounds good to me.

It may pay to hold off a bit and see what comes out and ETA's for enhancements. Every time I have bought something from Vishnu as an early adopter, I wish I had waited. Example, PWM meth kit had 4-5 hardware enhancements a few months after it came out.

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

As mentioned a few times today, logging and factory gauge-hijacking should be available later this week. Exact day/hour, i cannot say.

[boom]

I get you. THanks for the advice. I just wish that Vishnu would release the logs they already have. I mean they had to have logs to develop the calibrations. Why not just post them up?

[JStang]

Originally Posted by boom

I get you. THanks for the advice. I just wish that Vishnu would release the logs they already have. I mean they had to have logs to develop the calibrations. Why not just post them up?

There is no point in them releasing what logs look like on their car. You need to see what they look like on your car.

[BmwECY]

The read me file differentiates the two maps:


Stage 0 is for stock cars
Stage 1 for cars with DCI's

I think 93 octane is required for stage 1 but I'm not positive on that.

[Johnny Boost]

Originally Posted by BmwECY

The read me file differentiates the two maps:


Stage 0 is for stock cars
Stage 1 for cars with DCI's

I think 93 octane is required for stage 1 but I'm not positive on that.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by scottp999

Me, i just want a way to get the extra fueling map for larger twin turbos to run in the background with procede map4 active. Half off Cobb sounds good to me.

Or soon you can get that map on your car for free, without Cobb or tablet.

[MAC335i]

Originally Posted by BmwECY

The read me file differentiates the two maps:


Stage 0 is for stock cars
Stage 1 for cars with DCI's

I think 93 octane is required for stage 1 but I'm not positive on that.

Per Shiv and Rob @ Vishnu Tuning: All testing has been done on 91 octane.

It's been said multiple times through-out all of the OFT threads.

[black335i]

Can a drop in be substituted instead of the DCI

[OpenFlash]

Stg 1 is more aggressive than Stg 0. Both in terms of top end boost and ignition advance. We have run it on DCI-only cars on 91oct. Some cars are okay with it. Some cars are better with Stg0. If in doubt, and only have access to 91oct, run the Stg 0 map. When logging is enabled, you can play around with both maps and see what you can get away with. For those who get 93oct, you're just lucky. Plain and simple

[Marcadelic]

Originally Posted by BlackJetE90

Or soon you can get that map on your car for free, without Cobb or tablet.

I'm so excited, just waiting for the last few bugs to be worked out

[jippii ensio]

Logging coming soon to OpenFlash is great. Most flash tunes can't even log, and most haven't come with any kind of logs when released. To be fair though, a tune can produce almost any kind of log since there is so much variation in other variables, such as ROM version, ambient temps, engine temps, altitude, dyno vs road, and so forth. Logging yourself under various circumstances is the only way to draw good quality conclusions.

[OrangeCrush]

I just found out a gas station in town sells 103 oct. What can I do with that?

[buster84]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

I just found out a gas station in town sells 103 oct. What can I do with that?

Drink it

Just Kidding, do not do that!

You would be able to run more timing, but would need a race gas tune for that to get the increased timing, a procede might work to unless vishnu releases race gas maps. For most, its cheaper to just mix with ethanol and call it a day.

[reeltime]

Guys this is probably a dumb question.. But if there's st 0 and st 1 (st 0 for stock and st 1 for dci), is there an OTS map for a FBO car? Or do you just work off of the st 1 OTS map to suit a FBO car?

[maxwell600]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Stg 1 is more aggressive than Stg 0. Both in terms of top end boost and ignition advance. We have run it on DCI-only cars on 91oct. Some cars are okay with it. Some cars are better with Stg0. If in doubt, and only have access to 91oct, run the Stg 0 map. When logging is enabled, you can play around with both maps and see what you can get away with. For those who get 93oct, you're just lucky. Plain and simple

I live in AL and can get 93oct. I don't know whether that's "lucky" or not...

[maxwell600]

Originally Posted by e92driva

Guys this is probably a dumb question.. But if there's st 0 and st 1 (st 0 for stock and st 1 for dci), is there an OTS map for a FBO car? Or do you just work off of the st 1 OTS map to suit a FBO car?

There will be future maps developed for FBO's, stay tuned.

[Johnny Boost]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

I just found out a gas station in town sells 103 oct. What can I do with that?

Make sure that it is UNLEADED before using it.

[sickem]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Logging coming soon to OpenFlash is great. Most flash tunes can't even log, and most haven't come with any kind of logs when released. To be fair though, a tune can produce almost any kind of log since there is so much variation in other variables, such as ROM version, ambient temps, engine temps, altitude, dyno vs road, and so forth. Logging yourself under various circumstances is the only way to draw good quality conclusions.

Wow, is that really true? Obviously on Cobb you can...Man I wouldn't want a tune I couldn't have confidence that the engine was happy.

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by sickem

Wow, is that really true? Obviously on Cobb you can...Man I wouldn't want a tune I couldn't have confidence that the engine was happy.

Yes, Cobb was the only flash tune that was able to log. However, even Cobb didn't provide any logs for their tunes with the release. So, you were not able to have much confidence on their OTS maps unless you logged yourself. A typical Cobb user doesn't log though...

[boom]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Yes, Cobb was the only flash tune that was able to log. However, even Cobb didn't provide any logs for their tunes with the release. So, you were not able to have much confidence on their OTS maps unless you logged yourself. A typical Cobb user doesn't log though...

LOL at your answers here. Clearly you're biased. If you'll recall (or maybe it was before your time) logs were posted hourly from COBB users questioning whether the SIX available OTS maps that were released were "okay" for their cars. IIRC None of those maps produced the numbers that have been reported for the OFT. Perhaps we've learned so much in the years since the AP was released that now the OFT tune can be considered "safe." We won't know that until logs from owners are released.

The big rub from Cobb was how long it took to get ATR. People could log and desperately wanted to push the boundaries and experiment. The AP even had a 1/4 and 0-60 tool that you could use to measure performance gains making a dyno less necessary. It's the opposite with OFT. You can change the tune any way you want, you just can't what the results of those changes are.

[JStang]

Originally Posted by boom

LOL at your answers here. Clearly you're biased. If you'll recall (or maybe it was before your time) logs were posted hourly from COBB users questioning whether the SIX available OTS maps that were released were "okay" for their cars. IIRC None of those maps produced the numbers that have been reported for the OFT. Perhaps we've learned so much in the years since the AP was released that now the OFT tune can be considered "safe." We won't know that until logs from owners are released.

The big rub from Cobb was how long it took to get ATR. People could log and desperately wanted to push the boundaries and experiment. The AP even had a 1/4 and 0-60 tool that you could use to measure performance gains making a dyno less necessary. It's the opposite with OFT. You can change the tune any way you want, you just can't what the results of those changes are.

I was thinking the same thing. I regret reading over half of the stuff this guy posts.

Kind of reminds me of the guy whose avi was a ninja chihuahua a few years ago. Kudos to anyone who can remember his name.