[Hiroyue]

Anyone have a good link for a icom emulator?

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by Hiroyue

Anyone have a good link for a icom emulator?

Why do you need one??

For ISTA D it runs naively through ediabas.

For ISTA P you must use ISTA P Loader...

[Hiroyue]

Having a issue reading and writing my 2URAD and I need to code it for a PDC retrofit, I don’t have CIC and I’ve already vo coded the CAS and NFRM with $507 $663 and #0310, I tried doing a sg_reset on the radio which worked for booting it but it didn’t code it. Inpa shows PDC module all sensors but tells me there’s no speakers.
So I was hoping to figure out if I could icom emulate for using ncs expert

[ctuna]

You have to have an actual Icom cable to write to
Most Bus modules after 3/07 production as I understand
it . Which means the Head Unit in Most Cases to.

This topic comes up all the time on the e90 coding sub forum,
I wish the answer was more nailed down , but this is the best
one that I know of.

[ptpending]

there is nothing with MOST and RAD units coding, and emulator was made so that first versions of the ISTA-D can work via DCAN cable without ICOM

RAD units coded using ICOM dcan interface, not MOST.

[ctuna]

Can anybody nail down what is needed for what years
and which modules.
I have seen that just an Icom A will code most anything.
Icom A attached to the OBD.
Yet I have seen people report that Bimmergeeks sends them
cable that just plugs into the OBD (assuming Icom a )
And they can suddenly do the 676 Hi fi coding they could not do
with a K/D can cable.
Then someone else was saying this only applied to the Pro Radio
and not the Idrive or certain idrive head units.
Someone else says you only need the Icom for coding the Logic
7 amp for the Icom fiberoptic connection and the others Most
Bus modules can be coded with K/D can cables.
Which makes some kind of sense since they have Serial lines
attached.

This needs to be a sticky if it isn't already.

Icoms discussed in the following thread

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do

[Sensible_]

You can code modules on the MOST bus with DCAN afaik.

Flashing the CIC/CCC requires an ICOM B however.

[ctuna]

Also we know you can't change to 676 from base or I suppose
to L7 with a pro radio using a K/d can cable. But is it written
in stone the date where 676 change is not possible is 3/07 build where they
went to D can from K can. And is just a speed and memory problem?

[Hiroyue]

So radio displays PDC but no sound inpa still says no speakers and is registering good distance readings. Still can’t read the 2URAD module in ncs, I’m using a BCable from Europe kdcan usb dongle. I guess the next question is would $300 be enough to buy a good icom unit and dongle for the e series?

Sensible is it my cable then? I’ve literally had no issues with it using winkfp I have flashed relatively quickly the FRM and JBE modules, and the most modules are just what I can’t do,

[ctuna]

Icom clones are much cheaper than they used to be the question
is can you get a good one.

Just look on ebay and amazon or do a general google search

Which sound system did you start with?
Which head unit idrive ccc cic or pro radio?

[Hiroyue]

This is actually the car technic did the install back in ‘12 for the prior owner only difference is a jl xd600/6v2 as well to power the mids and highs. The original system was a base stereo with a prof HU it looks like. No nav I-Drive
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696376

[ctuna]

So it was probably never changed from the base system programmng
as the MS-8 could handle the re eq for the head unit.
Why are you changing it now did the Ms-8 die?

[Hiroyue]

No still have it it’s going from HU to ms-8 to a xd600/6v2 and xd200/2v2 just to amp the lines and not use the ms8 internal amp. I get the usual load gong as well if I were to code the system to prof hifi could I use the same HU or I would need a hifi deck? I added the 6 channel amp because the ms8 just wasn’t enough for my taste. I have a backup ms-8 as well that I can swap out if the original dies so just working out the kinks and adding PDC and CA to the car.

[ctuna]

I thought the ms-8 handled both speaker level and pre amp level
outputs. but I don't know what you would gain except having the
ms-8 not work as hard to re eq.
Lot of DSP/amps that have higher outputs now but they are mostly
not self tweeking which can be good and bad depending on your
point of view.

Yeah as far as I know the Pro Radio and CIC or CCC are all programmable
to all three levels as long as you have the right Cable.

[Hiroyue]

Found a guy on eBay selling European actia icom modules little on the pricey side, obdii365 is one that I keep seeing from china anyone know anything about them or have one? All of the links I see in forums are too old I get 404 errors for the old China clones.

[Sensible_]

FYI MOST connection (e.g ICOM B) is not needed for coding any module on the MOST ring afaik.

You can code the 2URAD (any date / version) with an ICOM A. It does not require an ICOM B.

It's true most DCAN cables will fail coding it. However I believe a good quality cable with the updated firmware will code it fine. The BimmerGeeks cable for example.

[ctuna]

It would be nice to have it documented which cable will
work especially is there is a special case cable .
Someone made me aware that bimmergeeks now has
an extra special super duper Bimmergeeks Cable .

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by ctuna

It would be nice to have it documented which cable will
work especially is there is a special case cable .
Someone made me aware that bimmergeeks now has
an extra special super duper Bimmergeeks Cable .

I agree. Perhaps Levanime can answer?

For me it doesn't matter as I use ICOM. However I imagine this to be frustrating for those using DCAN cables.

The BimmerGeeks Expert cable is certainly a quality piece of kit.

I'd also be interested to see if the Original Omitec cable can code 2URAD.

[ctuna]

The frustrating thing is there is no well defined answer as to what
works with what year and what hardware or firmware.

[Hiroyue]

Well according to bcables in the uk they’re cables work for everything and have a 1 click installer. I have no disc drive for my lab top so can’t vouch for their software cable works quickly flashes CAS, PDC, FRM and JBE modules relatively quickly. No reading of 2mulf or 2URAD. I’ve found some genuine icom next units from bmwpartsworldwide in IL and schmiedmans out of Denmark for around 550 for anyone looking that route I will probably following suite shortly. My local dealer quoted me 530 for a unit. Part number is 81312360883 for the unit itself without the most connector as sensible said you basically just need the unit since our issues are not from the most ring.

[ptpending]

cannot believe that this way is reasonal if you have local shop with icom somewhere near

[Sensible_]

Originally Posted by Hiroyue

Well according to bcables in the uk they're cables work for everything and have a 1 click installer. I have no disc drive for my lab top so can't vouch for their software cable works quickly flashes CAS, PDC, FRM and JBE modules relatively quickly. No reading of 2mulf or 2URAD. I've found some genuine icom next units from bmwpartsworldwide in IL and schmiedmans out of Denmark for around 550 for anyone looking that route I will probably following suite shortly. My local dealer quoted me 530 for a unit. Part number is 81312360883 for the unit itself without the most connector as sensible said you basically just need the unit since our issues are not from the most ring.

You must understand not all DCAN cables are made equal. I'd imagine the BCables cable are just like all the others.

Also, the software is nothing to do with them. They are repackaging BMW spec software like everyone else. Also, there are advising DIS on their website. This software is 10years + out of date....replaced by ISTA D

I don't know any other cable with the same build quality and firmware version as used by BimmerGeeks. I'd send BimmerGeeks a message and ask. It's far cheaper than an ICOM.