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      09-26-2016, 01:32 PM   #287
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Wait, what? I've had the 7" for at least a couple yrs and this is the first I've heard of two different cores. Something new?
Yes brand new ... They new High density core is not released yet
Very nice. I'm almost afraid to ask in this thread but is there any comparison data between the two?
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      09-26-2016, 01:33 PM   #288
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Very nice. I'm almost afraid to ask in this thread but is there any comparison data between the two?


No but I will post numbers of the new FMIC soon
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Here's another pull onto the highway on ramp from stop light. Still not to redline, but the IAT's did go up. 59f Out.
http://www.datazap.me/u/ivtecc/bumpe...24&zoom=57-295

And here's another one with the stock IC. 80f out.
http://www.datazap.me/u/ivtecc/iat-t...zoom=4377-4963
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Yes brand new ... They new High density core is not released yet
Both the HD core and the race core are in stock & ship immediately

We have about 15 race cores and 20 HD cores in the wild right now. We have independent customer logs for the race core but we're still waiting for the 7" HD logs.
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      09-26-2016, 07:30 PM   #291
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Post up logs of a 20minute track session.

What's the HD core weigh? 7.5" bar and plate design must weigh 50lbs.
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We will be testing the new 7" HD soon and posting results
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HDs have been "out in the wild" for weeks supposedly, including beta testers. I find it hard to believe it takes more than 2 hours to install and log, but I've yet to see a single piece of data from them...or even a picture of one for that matter.

No doubt IAT suppression will be better than the standard 7", but at the expense of how much flow/pressure drop? It piqued my interest a bit until I heard 3x the internal fin density too. Flow is a concern for larger turbos, just as much as IAT suppression is in Texas

Mike, please post before/after logs of it with no changes to the tune. Actual logs, not screen shots of datazap, including boost and WGDCs. Thanks!
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Had your Ambient and start of the pull have been within 10 or less like good/high quality intercoolers, then that would be something to talk about.
By Ambient, do you mean the outside temperature or the average cursing IAT?

My cursing IAT is 20f higher than the outside temp. So it that a bad thing?
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By Ambient, do you mean the outside temperature or the average cursing IAT?

My cursing IAT is 20f higher than the outside temp. So it that a bad thing?
Ambient is the outside temperature.

IAT 20F over ambient could be normal depending on the circumstances.
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Just installed my 7" VRSF... Fits perfect and IAT's are def under control now..
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Ambient is the outside temperature.

IAT 20F over ambient could be normal depending on the circumstances.
A few days ago it was 60f out and I'm around 80-90f just cursing around town, stop and go. But when I get on it my IAT drops down 10f then eventally climbs back up. My intercooler is strange yet awesome... lol

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Just installed my 7" VRSF... Fits perfect and IAT's are def under control now..
Looks good
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Looks good
Thanks Mike..!!
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Just installed my 7" VRSF... Fits perfect and IAT's are def under control now..
Now that is a big Intercooler!! Haha!! Looks awesome!! I just got mine in yesterday also!!(ETS) IATs under control!!
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A few days ago it was 60f out and I'm around 80-90f just cursing around town, stop and go. But when I get on it my IAT drops down 10f then eventally climbs back up. My intercooler is strange yet awesome... lol

http://www.datazap.me/u/ivtecc/bumpe...24&zoom=57-295
If you're in stop and go traffic and heat soaking the FMIC, that's when IAT will tend to be higher then ambient.

I mentioned these points earlier in the thread where the conditions of your datalog (AKA Heat Soak) will play a strong roll in the outcome of the datalog.

To get a controlled run, you'll need to have an open stretch of highway for a good minute or basically enough time for your IAT to get to the point of not going any lower. Only way to do this is to monitor the IAT live.

If you are just interested in a typical day to day IAT log, you'll find it fairly inconsistent for the most part.

That's why controlled data is so important and a lot of it revolves around heat soak of the vehicle. The first log of the day on a cold car will always be better then a car that's been in and out of traffic for 30+ minutes.
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Just installed my 7" VRSF... Fits perfect and IAT's are def under control now..
Looks good, so much more exposed than my stock bumper. Where did you get the m3 rep and painted?
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Now that is a big Intercooler!! Haha!! Looks awesome!! I just got mine in yesterday also!!(ETS) IATs under control!!
Thanks brother!! Yeah shes lookin nice and aggressive now lol..

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Looks good, so much more exposed than my stock bumper. Where did you get the m3 rep and painted?
Thank you as well..! And yeah before you couldn't tell if it was a radiator or fmic lol, now there's no issue with that.. And I ordered my m3 rep from eBay for $299 and got it painted locally for $100.. My stock bumper had been hit on the highway by debris and the company that did it wrote me a check for $700, so I made a few bucks and got an m3 front out of the deal lol..
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