|
|
|
|
|
|
BMW Garage | BMW Meets | Register | Today's Posts | Search |
|
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum
>
Next GEN I-DRIVE Retrofit
|
|
09-14-2009, 06:31 PM | #331 | |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-14-2009, 06:53 PM | #332 | |
The Stig
31
Rep 1,232
Posts |
Quote:
If you're changing things on your car, it's best to update the FA/VO to reflect that. That way everything will be coded correctly, and you're most likely to have everything 100% operational -- that is 100% of functions that don't require the FSC code (nav, SVS, etc). Anyway, I'm really psyched by all the progress you guys are making! Let me know if I can help along the way, and you both need to keep us updated!
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-14-2009, 08:22 PM | #333 | |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Quote:
What is needed is either somehow blanking out this CIC and then getting the proper Long's VIN FSC or simply directly overwriting the current FSC from the donor's car with Long's VIN FSC if this is even possible (I think that it is but I think also that BMW will not want to go that route and facilitate the issue of FSC for used CIC as it could unwillingly "motivate" the robbery of Navigation computers for retrofit and swaps sales). For reference: in the case of Booster4075 complete retrofit a change of VO was required as his car did not have the Nav 609 code in his VO obviously. And that change of VO did in fact change the output of his used CCC from HiFi to Top HiFi, but that was the nature of the retrofit and not of a swap. And still his CCC required a set of FSC to enable the Voice Activation 620; the CCC does not require a set of FSC to enable Nav, it is only for Voice Activation. This is not applicable here... this donor CIC requires the FSC of Long's car VIN for then identify which options it needs to properly communicate with in his car. Right now this donor CIC should be able to communicate straight with the Long's Assist and iPod only, as these are the only common options between the donor's car and Long's. If Long retrofitted the Sirius tuner in his car then it will show up in the HD screen, as it was part of the factory options in the donor's car. But the HiFi coding stays because that was the factory option in the donor's car. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-15-2009, 01:19 AM | #334 |
Lieutenant General
1429
Rep 16,628
Posts |
i think i'm going to order the new CIC. i have a feeling this will work. i was going to install the unit and let it sit, but i forgot i do not have the right cable to install the unit.
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-15-2009, 06:17 AM | #336 |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Just make sure before ordering that you will have some assurance from your dealer that at least they are going to work with you and with whoever in BMWNA will authorize and prepare those FSC. If not you will be back to square one.
I also sure that it will work, but definitely it will not be plug 'n play. |
Appreciate
0
|
09-15-2009, 06:58 AM | #337 | |
The Stig
31
Rep 1,232
Posts |
Quote:
The other option is to directly code JUST the CIC, which can be done, but not at the dealer. The FSC is a whole different battle for which I don't have an easy solution. I think you may be right, it will probably have to be ordered from the dealer. Last I checked, the thought is that the CCC (or CIC in this case) is actually given a certificate and asked to perform the validation DURING the coding, so there's no good way to "fudge" it. No easy way, at least. As for the last part, the FSC does not control what the CIC talks to. That is the coding data. For instance, in a CCC car, whether or not you have HD radio is an option. It's called "IBOC" and if you don't have it, the flag is set to inactive. It's very easy to set this to active, but it has nothing to do with the FSC. Unless they've changed the whole coding structure with the CIC, the FSC should only be used to activate navigation and maybe SVS.
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-15-2009, 07:37 AM | #338 | |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Quote:
That's what I don't want to do unless there are some guarantees that it will not mess something else up down the line. There's already one documented recoding failure in the M3Post forum due to the car in question having the new controller installed with the old iDrive. I will try to see first if by just getting these FSC I will make a new CIC to "talk" to my audio options -on top of the NAV and Voice enable- without any VO change. If what you are saying about the FSC not doing anything else but enabling the Nav and Voice ends up being correct then I will decide what to do next... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-15-2009, 03:35 PM | #339 | |
The Stig
31
Rep 1,232
Posts |
Quote:
That said, the VO is a very simple list of option codes, no part numbers are involved. That's all on the progman/ISTA/P side. Still, you may be right, based upon the build date it may get confused when it sees a CIC. Time to experiment! As I said earlier - good luck! And please keep us updated!
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-20-2009, 02:06 AM | #341 | |
Freude am Fahren.
835
Rep 1,286
Posts
Drives: F15 X5 xDrive35i
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
|
Quote:
But to activate Navi you will need FSC code 100% sure. Other features should work just after reprograming of the car. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-20-2009, 02:10 AM | #342 |
Freude am Fahren.
835
Rep 1,286
Posts
Drives: F15 X5 xDrive35i
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
|
CIC set for 1099 Euro from Poland!
Prices are going down quickly! They are saying that for additional 299 Euro they can program it, but I think they cannot do it without car? http://cgi.ebay.pl/BMW-E90-E91-E92-E...#ht_1129wt_814 |
Appreciate
0
|
09-20-2009, 08:59 AM | #343 | |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-20-2009, 12:13 PM | #344 |
Freude am Fahren.
835
Rep 1,286
Posts
Drives: F15 X5 xDrive35i
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Toronto, Ontario
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-20-2009, 03:58 PM | #345 |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
I think that this vendor once stated in that auction that this was an LCI iDrive "kit"; I know because I also clicked it to see if it was in reality some time ago.
It seems that the vendor removed that "LCI" from the description... |
Appreciate
0
|
09-22-2009, 12:16 AM | #347 |
Lieutenant General
1429
Rep 16,628
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2009, 07:08 PM | #349 |
Lieutenant General
1429
Rep 16,628
Posts |
Ok, so i just re installed the system. i am going to let the car sleep with the new unit. hopefully it will work when it wakes up. everything else is working. the CIC is reading the tpms, vehicle service, oil level, brakes, etc....i'm not sure why the navigation is not loading. i will restart it up in 30 mins.
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2009, 08:43 PM | #350 | |
Lieutenant General
2281
Rep 12,998
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
09-23-2009, 08:59 PM | #351 |
Lieutenant General
1429
Rep 16,628
Posts |
[u2b]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/G2MbDTfuEcA&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/G2MbDTfuEcA&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/u2b]
|
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|