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      04-22-2015, 07:38 PM   #67
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it's a pre-lci and I can try and do that
Is easy if you friend has access and know how to do some machining on a lathe.b Talk to him first. I can offer this for all willing to ship the rear calipers and finish the rest themselves. Or for local guys. Either way lead time will be around 10 days. But gain, if Wladi knows of better way, which I highly doubt, you can go that route instead.
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Is easy if you friend has access and know how to do some machining on a lathe.b Talk to him first. I can offer this for all willing to ship the rear calipers and finish the rest themselves. Or for local guys. Either way lead time will be around 10 days. But gain, if Wladi knows of better way, which I highly doubt, you can go that route instead.
Thanks for replies! he hasn't pmd back and I'd be willing I just need to know exactly what to do to make the rears fit so I can pass the info to him.
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      04-23-2015, 07:13 PM   #69
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I'm the first who did this mode and this is what I did.
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Thanks for posting pictures. Some people don't want to imagine the needed mod.

It's very admirable that you modified the rear knuckle mounting holes
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      04-24-2015, 06:30 AM   #71
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Thanks for posting pictures. Some people don't want to imagine the needed mod.

It's very admirable that you modified the rear knuckle mounting holes
Why? Because BMW You don't want me start on that one...
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Jokes aside, that is how I did it an it works. My car has seen many track days and even more hard braking. Yes, there are another options that doesn't require milling down the caliper and I knew how to do it I just decided not to since for me only involved more work and money.
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Jokes aside, that is how I did it an it works. My car has seen many track days and even more hard braking. Yes, there are another options that doesn't require milling down the caliper and I knew how to do it I just decided not to since for me only involved more work and money.
Thank you, and I can send my rear calipers to you and you could mill them down? =)
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      04-24-2015, 11:45 AM   #74
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Thank you, and I can send my rear calipers to you and you could mill them down? =)
PM me and hopefully we can work something out.
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      04-24-2015, 01:18 PM   #75
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PM me and hopefully we can work something out.
I will I sent my friend the link to this thread and my friend informed me the brakes hes giving me are from a 435i with 4 piston fronts and single piston sliding caliper rears so we are going to test fit and see what happens from there. wish us luck! Thank you for all the information. I'll post updates with what happens!
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single piston sliding caliper rears so we are going to test fit and see what happens from there. wish us luck! Thank you for all the information. I'll post updates with what happens!
Don't even bother with that. Same size with the one you already have on the e90
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I have posted the full manual.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1#post17806391

Feuer - if You think this is a worse way than Yours (which I can read from your posts and the way you write about "the other way") thats ok - I respect that. Maybe its "better".

The other wah is:
- Less aggressive
- Safer
- Reversible (for the calipers for sure ).

The only thing is that this way probably takes a bit more time. I think its worth it but it is anybodys choice.

Regards.

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      04-25-2015, 10:48 PM   #78
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I have posted the full manual.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1#post17806391

Best regards.

Feuer - if You think this is a worse way than Yous (which I can rear from your posts and the way you write about "the other way") thats ok - I respect that. Maybe its "better".

The other wah is:
- Less aggressive
- Safer
- Reversible (for the calipers for sure ).

The only thing is that this way probably takes a bit more time. I think its worth it but it is anybodys choice.

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No, no, We are all good! I knew of this. Believe me, I knew because that is the difference between pre-lci and lci e90.
Originally I wanted to run a spacer between the hub and the rotor. I decided not to go this route because of few main reasons:
1. cheaper since doesn't involve new parts and more intensive labor.
2. I can easily go back to stock brakes
3. I can sell faster the modded f30 calipers to a e90 owner.
4. If I changed the nub I needed to buy new wheels since I have 18x10 et25 in the rear.
But regardless! Thank you for the instruction guide!
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      04-26-2015, 04:55 AM   #79
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Good.
Feuer - Im not quite following what do you write about regarding lci or pre-lci e90 in terms of the rear caliper mounting. Whats the difference?

Another thing - did U try any low dust pads on the calipers?
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Good.
Feuer - Im not quite following what do you write about regarding lci or pre-lci e90 in terms of the rear caliper mounting. Whats the difference?
Another thing - did U try any low dust pads on the calipers?
The LCI has wider track because is using different hubs. I have pre LCI
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798358
No, I have not tried any other brake pads.
The M Performance pads are less dusty compared to M Sport pads.
Here are the differences:
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/t-br...fferences.aspx
My pads are really worn and I will be ordering Cool Carbon in couple of weeks and will report.
I will order from here:
http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-F30-328.../Braking/Pads/
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      05-18-2015, 08:42 PM   #81
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Good.
Feuer - Im not quite following what do you write about regarding lci or pre-lci e90 in terms of the rear caliper mounting. Whats the difference?

Another thing - did U try any low dust pads on the calipers?
Update! I installed Cool Carbon last week. They cost the same $$$ as OEM. No dust. Initial bite is less but is more linear. I like them. Like them better than OEM. They are quieter too.
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      05-29-2015, 01:15 PM   #82
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Hi
I do this upgrade yesterday to my 335iA (pre facelift). I use 135i hubs.
Here what I do.
I mill down 2 mm (two places), you can see thouse here:

Afrerward I realize that it should be 3 mm.

Here is difference after milling down:


After 2 mm milling down, I still have to use 1 mm spacer when istalling the caliber...

Some more pics



If you change hubs you need to replace bearings also


after


There it is



We have to use 1 mm spacer to adjust the caliber in right position.



Important!
Whit this modification I have to use 3 to 5 mm spacer or the spoke of the rim will damage the calibers.

Front

and


I have now 19" Performance wheels, as you can see 18" wheels is impossible.



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seeing what Tommix had to do doesn't make me regret milling the caliper one single bit.
A lot of aftermarket 18" and few OEM 18" clear the calipers.
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      05-29-2015, 07:35 PM   #85
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seeing what Tommix had to do doesn't make me regret milling the caliper one single bit.
A lot of aftermarket 18" and few OEM 18" clear the calipers.
Yeah.
I think with my wheels I'll have rubbing issues if I extend the wheel toward the fender.

I'm going to look around a bit then buy.
I've seen some for sale in orange (never), yellow or red.
Looks like the blue was a factory install option for Canada.
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I've seen some for sale in orange (never), yellow or red.
mine are red
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      05-29-2015, 10:19 PM   #87
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So let's define LCI vs non LCI rear setting. This will dictate what everyone does.

As far as I understand. The rear Caliper and rotor for 335 and the respective 328 parts is the same between Lci and nonLci. The part number are the same across models LCI vs NonLci

The difference in track is actually the Knucle holding the caliper and rotor and bearing. It is 5mm each Side wider and causes a headache for LCI owner with low offset wheels. But this allows to use PRE LCI rotor and brake caliper because they are centered correctly on the new Knucle.

Why does BMW do this? Even 1 series LCI has this crappy Knucle change that takes away 3-5mm on the horrible 1 series rear fitment( for those that don't know 1 series hubs are 10 mm longer than equivalent 335 or 328i )

If I am wrong correct me
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Anyone figure out if the front 6 piston M versions fit or not? I have 19" wheels as does the M4. Thx.
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