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      05-01-2018, 06:58 PM   #1
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Focal IFBMW vs. ES 100K

I'm trying to figure out exactly what I'm paying for with the IFBMW package. As far as I can tell, I get custom-fitted speaker mounts, and some speaker wire with inline crossovers, and a few tools and accessories.

Is there any reason I can't just buy the ES 100K and DIY the 4-hole cage into the 3-hole mount?
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      05-01-2018, 08:15 PM   #2
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You can buy speaker adapters.

I don't think the IFBMW are as high end as some of
the others in there quality or power handling abitlitys.
I think they were meant as a plug and play option for
the stock systems.
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      05-02-2018, 12:44 PM   #3
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You can buy speaker adapters.

I don't think the IFBMW are as high end as some of
the others in there quality or power handling abitlitys.
I think they were meant as a plug and play option for
the stock systems.
Where can I get the adapters? I don't see any links to the adapters on the page you linked.
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      05-02-2018, 01:54 PM   #4
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Where can I get the adapters? I don't see any links to the adapters on the page you linked.
eBay or
TechninPNP (Google it.)

IMO, you are paying a premium for any of the "drop-in" solutions. They have to spread the R&D and manufacturing across a smaller number of units when making something that is platform specific. Performance is likely on par with something in their line at half the retail price points. If you want budget performance there was a guy on the F10 forums putting together a kit consisting of Faital Pro 4" mids and Dayton Audio 3/4" tweeters with a simple in-line 6db/octave crossover for the tweeter. If you wanted to put together the same configuration, it should be less than $150 for everything. Having personally used the Faital Pro drivers from this setup I would guess that the performance would not be outdone by any of the commercially available drop-in offerings at 4 times the price.

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eBay or
TechninPNP (Google it.)

IMO, you are paying a premium for any of the "drop-in" solutions. They have to spread the R&D and manufacturing across a smaller number of units when making something that is platform specific. Performance is likely on par with something in their line at half the retail price points. If you want budget performance there was a guy on the F10 forums putting together a kit consisting of Faital Pro 4" mids and Dayton Audio 3/4" tweeters with a simple in-line 6db/octave crossover for the tweeter. If you wanted to put together the same configuration, it should be less than $150 for everything. Having personally used the Faital Pro drivers from this setup I would guess that the performance would not be outdone by any of the commercially available drop-in offerings at 4 times the price.
Cool, so I should be able to get away with any speaker that's 4 ohm, fits in the hole, and has it's on crossover network, yeah?

Any concerns about the stock processor attempting to DSP the system with the wrong settings? I've heard it does active noise cancelation, as well as a baked-in EQ tuned for the factory system. I really don't want to dive into spending $800+ on a new amp and processor if I don't have to...
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Cool, so I should be able to get away with any speaker that's 4 ohm, fits in the hole, and has it's on crossover network, yeah?

Any concerns about the stock processor attempting to DSP the system with the wrong settings? I've heard it does active noise cancelation, as well as a baked-in EQ tuned for the factory system. I really don't want to dive into spending $800+ on a new amp and processor if I don't have to...
If you have Logic7, then yes there is EQ built into the system. If you do have logic 7 then I would probably look into upgrading the processor and amplifier before upgrading the speakers.
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      05-04-2018, 12:08 AM   #7
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If you have Logic 7 you don't have any good choices.
As its hard and expensive to replace and it's kind of decent
to begin with but hard to modify in any significant way.

You should positively identify which system you have.

BMW stereo types
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352586
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...2&d=1266451970
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...2&d=1260829447
http://www.bmwmotorsports.org/pdf/e7...%20Systems.pdf
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343673
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138949
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1209780605
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...1&d=1209780865
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=641323
http://bmwcoders.com/forum/3-er-8/bm...1-e92-e93-291/
http://technicpnp.com/menuDiagrams/d...e90_92_93.html
http://www.musicarnw.com/page-2/
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...3&d=1169133185
http://www.e90post.com/forums/attach...4&d=1278871872
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Pretty sure L7 was standard equipment on all 2007 and 2008 335 models.

OP, what are you trying to accomplish? Were you just looking to replace mid/high speakers, doing an entire system overhaul...?
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I just finished installing a pair of K2 Power ES 100 K 's in my doors. I also installed a JL Audio VX600/6i, so I can't comment on how they would sound without the amp replacement.

At first I ran them with the stock amp, but I had hooked up the spade lugs wrong and the 4" driver was not working at all. Needless to say that sounded awful

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have a problem with the window when the position is down and the speakers? for E92
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have a problem with the window when the position is down and the speakers? for E92
Which Focal speaker did you buy?

The E92 is especially crampt between the speaker and the windshield. You have to buy specific speakers that are meant to fit. E90 is a little more forgiving.
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Which Focal speaker did you buy?

The E92 is especially crampt between the speaker and the windshield. You have to buy specific speakers that are meant to fit. E90 is a little more forgiving.
K2 ES 100k
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Which Focal speaker did you buy?

The E92 is especially crampt between the speaker and the windshield. You have to buy specific speakers that are meant to fit. E90 is a little more forgiving.
K2 ES 100k
Dang, so that is the one I have on my E90. I swear someone got a set in before though on an e92. I do recall it being very very tight on their install. Not sure if they did anything fancy.

There was one from a year earlier that had a slightly smaller basket iirc.
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Look at the list of speakers in the audio build sticky .
There is a an entry in there that has a thread with the list
of speakers that fit and considerations of the e92.
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