[m@rk]

Originally Posted by TMP

Really good points Alan.

So at 50/50 mix, 5L is not going to last long in our two cars....may have to order the 20L next

I do 20,000 miles a year. Last year I bought 3 x 5L and right now I have 1.5 left in the garage.

In the summer you don't top up at 1:1 which makes quite a difference on usage and to be fair, the 6L washer tank on a 3 series does last for a number of weeks.

I would expect a 20L supply to last you 2 or 3 years

[TMP]

Originally Posted by m@rk

I do 20,000 miles a year. Last year I bought 3 x 5L and right now I have 1.5 left in the garage.

In the summer you don't top up at 1:1 which makes quite a difference on usage and to be fair, the 6L washer tank on a 3 series does last for a number of weeks.

I would expect a 20L supply to last you 2 or 3 years

Yep you prob right, but I will need more to get through this winter at 1:1.

6L litre wash bottle..in the 3er, same in the 5er..the just arrived 5L bottle in the hall will be empty tomorrow

[ZURICH]

Originally Posted by TMP

The dealer tested the screen wash concentration (or claimed to), and as that was good enough replaced under warranty.

BUT

I just don't want it to happen this year, so hoping the BMW stuff doesnt evaporate or freeze in the first place.

Suppose it should be 50/50 for harsh winter, say -20c at night like we had?

the reason it is rated atminus 63 deg is not so you can dilute it cause it only gets to minus 20 max but to protect from wind chill factor
In 2001 a new international formula was introduced the basic normal values for here in Switzerland are below.
So if traveling at 50 MPH at minus 20 deg the wind chill factor will give you a temp of minus 38 therefore freezing your washer fluid as it comes out of the washer jets. check it out at:

http://www.britishweatherservices.co.uk/calculator.htm

Temp (o C) -20 : Wind Speed (mph) 50
Old wind chill = -52 New wind chill = -38

[m@rk]

Originally Posted by ZURICH

the reason it is rated atminus 63 deg is not so you can dilute it cause it only gets to minus 20 max but to protect from wind chill factor
In 2001 a new international formula was introduced the basic normal values for here in Switzerland are below.
So if traveling at 50 MPH at minus 20 deg the wind chill factor will give you a temp of minus 38 therefore freezing your washer fluid as it comes out of the washer jets. check it out at:

http://www.britishweatherservices.co.uk/calculator.htm

Temp (o C) -20 : Wind Speed (mph) 50
Old wind chill = -52 New wind chill = -38

Hmmm

Wind chill only applies to skin as it's all about how you FEEL colder because of the wind (something to do with the heat being drawn away from your body)

On inanimate objects (such as water) regardless of the speed of travel or the wind speed, if the outside temperature is -20 then the coldest the water can every become is -20

I think your source is confused.

[ZURICH]

Originally Posted by m@rk

Hmmm

Wind chill only applies to skin as it's all about how you FEEL colder because of the wind (something to do with the heat being drawn away from your body)

On inanimate objects (such as water) regardless of the speed of travel or the wind speed, if the outside temperature is -20 then the coldest the water can every become is -20

I think your source is confused.

100% correct, just ignore my comments, will have a word with my physics teacher, ah crap he died, so i will have to take the flack for this one.

[Frobius]

I also noticed on that calculator that if the temp is 0 degrees C and there's a 2000mph wind, it'll feel like it's over 900 degrees C!! Maybe it's the friction or something...

[Number8]

Hi Guys,

Reading this thread has reminded me that, having bought an AUC from a dealer in August, the screen wash seems to be just water since it doesn't have a 'detergent foam' or smell like other screen washes I use. Haven't used car a lot since purchase but screen doesn't seem to clear that well.

It was an ex BMW management car so should have BMW screen wash! But should BMW screen wash have a smell/foam? Is there a way I can determine if there is screen wash present and importantly its strength?

I live 20 miles from my nearest BMW dealer so can this test be performed by myself or other garages?

Grateful for your help,

David

[shane55]

BMW screenwash is clear but it does have a smell...not too sure how to describe it but its slightly alcoholly if that makes sense! You can check the concentration of the mix with a refractometer - something that garages will use to determine the ammount of glycol concentration in your coolant...any decent garage should have one!

[Number8]

Thanks Shane55,
It definitely does not have an odour and is tasteless! I shall get it checked at a garage and then I suppose all I can do before the really cold weather is to use it as much as possible to make room for a concentrated wash.

Thanks again
David

[spirocheter]

Originally Posted by Billyray911

Me too!
Current prices are:

1) 20 litre box of Screenwash part number: 83 12 2 181 283-£40.94

2) Tap for the above-part number:83 19 2 210 467-£2.04

Apparently due in from Germany next week!

Thanks for supplying this, just what I was looking for. I will try and order some of this from my local Rybrook. I may check to see if Anneka is interested in supplying.

I've just ordered one of these from Ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Genuin...ht_1355wt_1396

I wasn't actually looking for a BMW specific item, but it seemed like the best deal to me. If it is good, and they have any left, I'll order another for my wife XC90.

[Billyray911]

Originally Posted by spirocheter

Thanks for supplying this, just what I was looking for. I will try and order some of this from my local Rybrook. I may check to see if Anneka is interested in supplying.

I've just ordered one of these from Ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Genuin...ht_1355wt_1396

I wasn't actually looking for a BMW specific item, but it seemed like the best deal to me. If it is good, and they have any left, I'll order another for my wife XC90.

No reductions for screenwash via Anneka,so If you can get it cheaper via another source,go for it.

[TMP]

I have to admit, i really am not sure about the smell, its a bit sweet and sickly!

Anyhow, I am already down to half my 5L now...so do need more

Have just PM'd Anneka tp see what deal she can do on the 20L?!

[TMP]

Originally Posted by Billyray911

No reductions for screenwash via Anneka,so If you can get it cheaper via another source,go for it.

Doh....looks like you beat me to it. Dont we still get 15% off?

[Billyray911]

Originally Posted by TMP

Doh....looks like you beat me to it. Dont we still get 15% off?

No,sorry mate-not on screenwash according to Anneka,via pm a few days ago.
Ordered some anyway!

[coopersim]

Originally Posted by Billyray911

No,sorry mate-not on screenwash according to Anneka,via pm a few days ago.
Ordered some anyway!

Oh bum! Didn't realise there was no reduction, and I'm making a special trip to a Sytner dealer for this

[Anneka @ Sytner]

I may be able to arrange something depending on the quantity needed.

Can we please start a list to see how many are interested in this product as a 'group buy'?
As a guide, the RRP is £42.98 inc VAT.

Please only add your name if you are able to collect from a Sytner BMW dealership (www.sytner.co.uk/bmw)

N.B. 5lt of screenwash retails at £15.89 inc VAT, so by purchasing the 20l box you currently save £20.58.

[jimmylimmy]

Originally Posted by Anneka @ Sytner

I may be able to arrange something depending on the quantity needed.

Can we please start a list to see how many are interested in this product as a 'group buy'?
As a guide, the RRP is £42.98 inc VAT.

Please only add your name if you are able to collect from a Sytner BMW dealership (www.sytner.co.uk/bmw)

N.B. 5lt of screenwash retails at £15.89 inc VAT, so by purchasing the 20l box you currently save £20.58.

Collected from local Sytners?

If so, I'll start the ball rolling...

1. jimmylimmy
2.

[Anneka @ Sytner]

Originally Posted by jimmylimmy

Collected from local Sytners?

...collection from any dealership from on this list (www.sytner.co.uk/bmw)

[spirocheter]

Originally Posted by Anneka @ Sytner

I may be able to arrange something depending on the quantity needed.

Can we please start a list to see how many are interested in this product as a 'group buy'?
As a guide, the RRP is £42.98 inc VAT.

Please only add your name if you are able to collect from a Sytner BMW dealership (www.sytner.co.uk/bmw)

N.B. 5lt of screenwash retails at £15.89 inc VAT, so by purchasing the 20l box you currently save £20.58.

Oh darn, hadn't seen this, just phoned my local dealer and ordered some at £40 plus VAT minus 5% trade discount (comes to £93 for two boxes and one tap), still it is a bit for me to drive to Sytner unless a trip planned to Birmingham. I should have enough now for a few miles anyhow! I guess anyone considering this could still have a courier pickup and deliver from Sytner for not too much.

[coopersim]

1. jimmylimmy
2. coopersim (I've already ordered mine through you Anneka...!)