Solid aluminum rear subframe bushings - Review

mmmnot · 05-21-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

The for the reply. I'm in Orlando. Lil too far for a test drive. Can you tell me how many hours labor for the install? I'm debating the difference vs oem more at the moment and back and forth on solid aluminum. Mines a daily driver. I don't want to have anything but minimal NVH. I was looking at AKG and Powerflex black otherwise.

Don't quote me but I want to say it was around five hours shop time for the pair.

Edit: My car is a DD as well; however, I have springs, CA, struts, etc. I figured it was the real missing piece to complete and compliment the suspension mods.

Some people prefer sound systems to enjoy the drive, I personally have always been obsessed with suspension and making the car as responsive and allowing as much feedback possible.

I, too was on the fence. I tried to order those exact Powerflex bushings, but at the time, everything I trusted as a vendor were sold out. That was my 'sign' to go with the solid bushings. I took it as a message from the car gods.

Fundguy1 · 05-21-2015, 08:11 PM

Cool. Thx.

mmmnot · 05-21-2015, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Cool. Thx.

No problem - report back with whichever you pick and let us know your thoughts, please.

JDuke335i · 05-21-2015, 08:34 PM

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I would like to know who all has installed the aluminum bushings , and there thoughts on the vibrations etc ?

It's as comparable as getting a performance exhaust.

You really don't even notice it after a while.

The response you get is flippin' amazing.

Plus, with the diff bushing I hear a slight whine which is actually an pleasant sound to me.

Honestly, you get more noise/vibration with coil overs or a stiff spring set than these bushings. I never understood the paranoia and hype over noise/vibration.

But then again, it's all contextual to a person's senses and what they consider a comfortable ride.

Too bad you're not local, I'd be happy to give anybody a ride.

Great thanks , you just helped me make my choice

aluminum it is. It can't vibrate worst than my 90 mustang gt I used to have. Lol ! Thanks

mmmnot · 05-21-2015, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JDuke335i

Great thanks , you just helped me make my choice

aluminum it is. It can't vibrate worst than my 90 mustang gt I used to have. Lol ! Thanks

Haha, no problem. I think you're going to find driving much more enjoyable and the mechanic road to car to driver feedback is amazing.

ThugzZ BunnY · 05-22-2015, 08:33 AM

mmmnot will you be at southrnfresh 5? i'll be down for that and would like to ride in your car.

mmmnot · 05-22-2015, 08:42 AM

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mmmnot will you be at southrnfresh 5? i'll be down for that and would like to ride in your car.

I think I might, it's at AMS - correct? I was at last years and it was a very nice time, so odds are I'll be there.

As a matter of fact, I'm part of the TN Motorsports FB group (random friends of friends invited me) and I actually want to make a jog up there to meet some of those guys. They all seem like a great group. Are you by chance in that group?

Fundguy1 · 05-22-2015, 09:23 AM

If you're down in Florida anywhere between now and mid July I'd like to try it too. I'm not often in Atlanta but occasionally.

ThugzZ BunnY · 05-22-2015, 11:42 AM

mmmnot im not in that group but we have a pretty big group up here that has meet ups every monday to eat. i think there may be a pretty big meet in Chatt coming up also. im not exactly sure whats going on for sf5 but its going to be really big this year and have a bunch of stuff to do.

mmmnot · 05-22-2015, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Audaci42

mmmnot im not in that group but we have a pretty big group up here that has meet ups every monday to eat. i think there may be a pretty big meet in Chatt coming up also. im not exactly sure whats going on for sf5 but its going to be really big this year and have a bunch of stuff to do.

I guess I'll be at SF5 - and that's the bottom line.

2010MSPORT335i · 05-28-2015, 01:01 PM

Does anyone besides Turner makes these solid bushings?

feuer · 05-28-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by idk alex

Does anyone besides Turner makes these solid bushings?

Macht Schnell, MRF Enginiring, MK Racing and probably more.

2010MSPORT335i · 05-29-2015, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by feuer

Macht Schnell, MRF Enginiring, MK Racing and probably more.

Great, going to check this out.

Does anyone know if they solid diff bushings for the M3 fit our cars as well?

http://machtschnell.com/solid-alumin...1m-e9x-m3.html

feuer · 05-29-2015, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by idk alex

Great, going to check this out.

Does anyone know if they solid diff bushings for the M3 fit our cars as well?

http://machtschnell.com/solid-alumin...1m-e9x-m3.html

I would say no, because one goes into the diff cover plate which is different. So two out of the three should fit. But it would be the best if you reach out to guys that have swapped the stock diff for M3 unit.

SGe92is · 06-23-2015, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

If it works why reinvent the wheel. Back on topic, any other people running aluminum?

MRF solid aluminum here. My other mods are in my sig as well.

None of my previous cars had rubber subframe bushings, so when I got this car I immediately felt the loose rear end (that's what she said). There was no NVH added with the solid subframe bushings, NVH increase was mainly from the M3 control arms, diff bushings, and Ohlins coilovers. Though I wouldn't say that it is bad, it is still a very comfortable car. My previous car was a 350z with complete urethane bushing swap on all suspension pieces. Pretty harsh.

If anyone is in the West LA area and wants a ride, I'd be more than happy.

GreekboyD · 07-16-2016, 12:42 PM

How do these compare to the Powerflex ones?

AWDBooSTIn90 · 08-27-2016, 08:44 PM

Are the powerflex and other brand poly bushings so stiff that you might as well get an aluminum set of solid bushings. They're a non-wearable bushing, no squeaking, no greasing.

Seems like the better choice..

Please explain to me what was necessary to install these that make them tough for a diy'er? I have a press and can remove the whole subframe completely to get it done, one time, the right way. Solid.

Then adjust nvh with other suspension components/bushings. Like rear control arms, especially also diff bushings. Def dont go solid and solid unless its a full out race/track car i would assume

hidavi · 11-07-2020, 12:26 PM

I got 2.5 of the 4 diff bushings in before I broke the first bushing pull & press tool. I ordered two more tools which are to arrive tomorrow. To confirm, its normal to break 1-2 bushing tools trying to put in the Turner aluminum subframe bushings?

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Fundguy1 Major General 2032 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	If you're down in Florida anywhere between now and mid July I'd like to try it too. I'm not often in Atlanta but occasionally.
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ThugzZ BunnY Major 682 Rep 1,155 Posts Drives: 2011 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: BMW of Chattanooga iTrader: (0)	mmmnot im not in that group but we have a pretty big group up here that has meet ups every monday to eat. i think there may be a pretty big meet in Chatt coming up also. im not exactly sure whats going on for sf5 but its going to be really big this year and have a bunch of stuff to do. __________________ IG: @andy__wise Inquiries: Andrew.Wise@bmwofchattanooga.com
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AWDBooSTIn90 Nomore 149 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 335i Coupe 6MT N54 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Long Island iTrader: (1)	Are the powerflex and other brand poly bushings so stiff that you might as well get an aluminum set of solid bushings. They're a non-wearable bushing, no squeaking, no greasing. Seems like the better choice.. Please explain to me what was necessary to install these that make them tough for a diy'er? I have a press and can remove the whole subframe completely to get it done, one time, the right way. Solid. Then adjust nvh with other suspension components/bushings. Like rear control arms, especially also diff bushings. Def dont go solid and solid unless its a full out race/track car i would assume
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hidavi Enlisted Member 10 Rep 34 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	I got 2.5 of the 4 diff bushings in before I broke the first bushing pull & press tool. I ordered two more tools which are to arrive tomorrow. To confirm, its normal to break 1-2 bushing tools trying to put in the Turner aluminum subframe bushings?
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