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      04-13-2006, 10:56 AM   #23
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I think its a combination of not being in the right gear, not being in manual mode and reaction time. I'd think the 330 will have little trouble keeping up with the Mazdaspeed6 in those conditions...you're forgetting eventhough it is a quoted 255hp on paper, BMW horses always seem stronger than your average horse...
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      04-13-2006, 10:58 AM   #24
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I agree, dragraces aren't everything. Just be glad you're driving the pinnacle of sports sedans and he's not driving a BMW so by default you win. I'll quote Edmunds.com with their comparison of IS350 vs. 330i "It was close, but the 3 Series always managed to sway decisions back into its favor whenever a wavering "judge" got behind the wheel. And when we reminded ourselves that the true mission of a sport sedan is to provide enjoyment derived from driving, not quoting performance numbers to your buddies or convincing whomever which is the better deal, it always came back to the BMW. " ~ Edmunds.com
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      04-13-2006, 11:06 AM   #25
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yes, I know the mazdaspeed6, 0-60 is prolly around 6.3 with a really good driver, 6.5 with an average driver


a 5spd e46 330 can do that closer to 6.3 with an average driver. An e90 is very close to 6 if not under.



qtr mile is almost even with the e46 at 14.7. the e90 should have no problem dispatching the 6 since its qtr mile is 14.3
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      04-13-2006, 11:42 AM   #26
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wait, the 330i is slower than a Mazda Speed???
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      04-13-2006, 11:44 AM   #27
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to the OP, get the M3 or wait for the Turbo 3.
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      04-13-2006, 12:38 PM   #28
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No...330i should be able to beat the mazdaspeed 6. read my earlier post.
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      04-13-2006, 12:45 PM   #29
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6.3 seconds to 60 and a quater of 14.7 sec @ 96.5 mph its a 2.3 Liter and a 3600 Lbs boat. COOL! a 330i manual should take it unless the driver sucks. Plus uptop like 80+ i dont think he would pull on a 330i considering the AWD and drivetrain % loss. Its harder to push 4 wheels high end then it is to push 2 wheels.
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6.3 seconds to 60 and a quater of 14.7 sec @ 96.5 mph its a 2.3 Liter and a 3600 Lbs boat. COOL! a 330i manual should take it unless the driver sucks. Plus uptop like 80+ i dont think he would pull on a 330i considering the AWD and drivetrain % loss. Its harder to push 4 wheels high end then it is to push 2 wheels.
the 330xi sp has a higher top end than the 330i sp according to the brochure.
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although i think it is by only 1 mph. LOL
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      04-13-2006, 01:07 PM   #32
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Mazdaspeed claims 274hp... so you're envying a mere 19 hp???? Of course this is forgoing the notion that BMW underrates their car. Pick a better target to envy.
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      04-13-2006, 01:17 PM   #33
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I was driving to work the other day and this a-h..e pulls up to within 3 feet of my rear bumper. There were 2 lanes going in our direction of traffic. As soon as a gap developed in the next lane, he blew by me. Frickin' mazdaspeed 6 or whatever the f it's called. So I took the bait, and was able to pass him again only because my lane was moving faster now. A few moments later, and after a couple of dangerous maneuvers (on his part), the f-tard is blowing by me again, with tons of speed, and nodding his bushy head like he's playing an air guitar or something, and he has this sh** eating grin all over his face, and he's eating an apple nonchalantly, all while going 100+ mph. Dear BMW... please give us some real horsepower (and torque) so that we can dismiss these wannabe bmw-conquerors. A Mazdaspeed 6 should not have beaten up on a 330i so easily!

i am pretty sure it was not your 330I...you must be the sisiest driver ever.....a Mazda really....dude your pathetic....
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I'm reading the original post again and I've come to the conclusion that the OP is either a troll or an idiot, and most likely both.

I mean...the stuff he says doesn't fit...how can someone be "nodding his bushy head to rock music", "eating an apple nonchalantly", and have a "sh*t eating grin on his face" all at the same time? All while "blowing past" him? Sounds completely fabricated to me.

Yup...definitely an idiot.
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      04-13-2006, 01:35 PM   #35
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I wonder if we will create a new thread every time as somebody will pass somebody on the road. All those discussions are quite pathetic. People, get a life!
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what is a troll
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what is a troll?
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      04-13-2006, 02:01 PM   #38
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what is a troll


someone who comes onto forums just to disrupt the natural continuity of other people posting legitimate posts.
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      04-13-2006, 02:59 PM   #39
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Like, as in:
"what is a troll?" ...
Sorry, humorless day at this end.
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who gives a flying f-ck?
he's in a mazda
he feels good about his small d-ck... and he doesn't realize what a sh-thead he is.
let it go.
infantile.
Unlike your "small d!ck" comment?

Uh, most people would say the BMW driver is the one compensating for his lackluster phallic endowment.

The speed6 is a pretty nice ride for the money, and modding a turbo has much reward for lower cash outlay.

But, I'm with you about who really gives a f*ck!
You buy your car because YOU like it. If you're buying it to impress,
I'm not impressed.

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Besides the OP, has anyone here even raced a MS6? Let's not magazine race

yes. as I have said already (note tho, the way the other person shifted, i think it was an auto)
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      04-13-2006, 03:50 PM   #42
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mazdaspeed6 is okay...if thats what you want. if you want a boy-racer car then id spend my money on a wrx or a evo. i know mazdaspeed6 is trying to avoid that by giving it somewhat toned-down exterior/interior. and they said it was made for the more mature crowd who wants performace...blah blah blah. but they thing about the mazdaspeed6 is that it doesnt do anything particularly well. its got 270 hp- thats okay (but the torque is good at 280 because of the FI) the handeling is again, just okay. exterior is just okay. everything is just okay. nothing to writte home about. they found a nich for people who want okay cars. its NOT a race car. its NOT a luxery sedan. its kinda of a sporty sedan...but i can think of many other cars that'll be a better buy.

and for us BMW drivers. lets get one thing straight. WE DO NOT DRIVE RACE CARS. i see these thread about racing other cars and if thats what you want to do with your car, then boy, have you bought the wrong car. our 3 is quick. its not fast. our cars is not the most luxurious car you can buy either. BUT its kinda of like the mazda, except our BMW's does EVRYTHING really well. we drive cars that are damn good driver cars and pretty much are towards the top in every catergory but we do not drive cars that excels in any one. i know its cliche, but its the whole package. anyone whose even driven a bimmer can tell you that.

the truth is our cars always performed well in real world tests because that what it was designed to do. perform in the real world. but make no mistake there are a plethora of cars that is faster than our and can outhandle our cars. so if you can beat a scion or a mazda and that makes you happy then good for you. but dont be surprised when you get outrun by soccer moms in mediocre hondas and toyotas and even SUVs.

just go back to that first day when you decided to buy a BMW. thats what its all about. theres a reason why we decided to buy a bimmer. we knew what we were getting into and as for me i never looked back. ive driven fast cars, cars that handle like go karts, luxury car ... but damn it its my 3 that puts the biggest smile on my face. our cars is the epitome of what a luxury sport sedan is. i dont think any other manufactor can/will make that statement.
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      04-13-2006, 08:28 PM   #43
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Dear BMW... please give us some real horsepower (and torque) so that we can dismiss these wannabe bmw-conquerors. A Mazdaspeed 6 should not have beaten up on a 330i so easily!
I feel your pain bro. Get ready to be smoked by the likes of Camrys and Carollas ... Toyota just fitted the new ones with 268 horses. I love the handlind of my Bimmer but it's just plain humiliating to get dusted by a Camry.
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Esy. Don't be baited so easily on what you have asserted was a busy public road. Let the mazda tryhard driver be in his own (dangerous) world.

Drive the e90 in an enjoyable manner. The way it is meant to be
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