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02-06-2008, 11:14 PM | #1 |
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2nd Dyno - Procede V2 only
Ok, so I installed the V2 last Friday. My car has no other mods and, in fact, still has the temp tag on it.
The install was very simple and straightforward. The car felt pretty good right afterward, but got stronger as the days went by due to the adaptation process. There was one series of full throttles that concerned me: 3 times I floored it and in 3rd gear at 5500 the car hit a fuel cut or something...no limp mode...just a cut of some sort, and then back to normal. thankfully the next day it was gone! So far, I am very pleased. The car really woke up! It feels like it is chomping at the bit all the time....very responsive and just wants to go! I decided to dyno again (did a baseline last week)to see exactly what the V2 gave me. I was very pleased with the results: I gained 62 RWHP from the V2 alone! I was hoping for 50 or so...so I was happy. What was so pleasing was that this was with the 90% default torque settings which Ali at Vishnu told me were designed for 91 octane cars in Cali. He told me I should be able to take it to 92% with no problem. So I think that'll definitely be worth a few more ponies! If I can get 8 RWHP or so from bumping the torque settings, 15 from an exhaust, and 10 from a filter...that would bring me to around 370RWHP...does that sound reasonable to you guys? Anyone with knowledge let me know how much I can expect to gain from the torque settings? I printed out only my best runs from the baseline and V2 dynos for comparison. So far so good! |
02-06-2008, 11:15 PM | #2 |
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Your dyno operator needs to learn a thing or two about dynoing cars, especially ones with tq...but cool post.
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02-06-2008, 11:27 PM | #3 |
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Whats the correct method of dynoing then? I know its 4th gear traction control off.. What else? Thanks
Nice numbers for 91 octane
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02-06-2008, 11:36 PM | #5 |
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V1 cars made that much. I'm pretty disappointed in the V2 numbers.
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02-06-2008, 11:36 PM | #6 |
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You won't gaint 15whp from an exhaust and you are lucky to get 5whp with a filter.
Next best thing you can do it catless DP's. Thats what really transforms your car.
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02-07-2008, 12:11 AM | #7 |
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that Dyno is off.
OP, PM me when you get a chance. edit: the dyno is off but thats not whats wrong. you had a baseline dyno done on 1/30, you need to let it adapt some more.
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02-07-2008, 12:20 AM | #9 |
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reading fine? i got 326rwhp from that exact same dyno on 1.47.
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02-07-2008, 12:34 AM | #11 |
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are you being sarcastic or insinuating something?
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02-07-2008, 12:39 AM | #12 |
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Neither. If my assumption is correct that you believe the dyno is reading wrong because he only has a 10hp gain over V1. Then I'm asking what's your point.
Not insinuating that V2 has hardly any gains over V1, I came right out and said that I was disappointed with them. So far I haven't seen any customers come out with any impressive gains. Mines going in next weekend so I'll see too.
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02-07-2008, 06:06 AM | #16 |
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Looks pretty good to me.
337 rwhp on 90% default settings with dyno set to SAE. As Shiv said, your torque numbers are low simply because the dyno operator (must be a newb) should have started the run at 2000 rpms, not 4000 rpms. I'd call the place up and ask for a free redyno since you do not have accurate torque numbers. 11 hp gain over a v1.47 car on the 90% settings is what I'd expect. At 92% settings you should see another 7-8 rwhp. And since you are in a 93 Octane state, after you do a WOT 2nd to 3rd gear redline datalog at 92%, and if all is fine and you don't have peak boost of over 15 psi you can up the settings even more. If you can go to 93.333% on 93 Octane, you'll see another 15+ rwhp. On a v2 only car on 93 Octane, with boost peaking at 14.5-15 psi you should see 350-355 rwhp on the dynojet. For reference: I got 345 rwhp on 92 Octane with settings that gave me 14.1 psi peak boost. |
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02-07-2008, 06:15 AM | #17 |
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As for exhaust and drop in filter:
Don't expect more than 3-4 hp, at best, from the drop in filter. Honestly, it's a very minor amount anyway and when you hear people say, "I noticed a bit more snappy acceleration, quicker throttle response, and bit louder turbo sound" IT'S ALL IN THEIR HEAD!! On the exhaust side, here's what I've seemed to notice: On a stock car, or a car making less boost, the catback exhaust seem to give you a good 12-15 rwhp increase. However, with a tune that pushes power up close to 350 rwhp, the exhaust seems to only give about 6-8 rwhp. Why? Well at the 360 rwhp point, it's the intake that's the restriction. The stock exhaust seems to flow well enough to allow 360 rwhp, but the the intake does not. So the car gets choked off by the stock airbox assembly right around the 355-360 rwhp point, regardless of the exhaust you have on. Meaning, you can make 365+ rwhp with a CAI and stock exhaust. However, in appears you can't make 365+ rwhp with the stock intake and catback exhaust. So, if you are going to run PROcede v2 on 93 Octane with boost of 14.5-15 psi expect ~350 rwhp. With exhaust and drop in filter, expect ~360 rwhp. If you want 365+ rwhp you need to get a good TRUE Cold Air Intake on there too. The twin open air cone filters, as I've said since the day I saw them, will do fine on the dyno, but will suck in an AWEFUL lot of hot air once your hood is down, and the engine is hot. |
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I'd expect a bit more if he was on 93 Octane. |
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92% for 91, 94% for 93, etc....
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02-07-2008, 10:02 AM | #21 |
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I would say 95-96% to be on the safe side...seeing as that with 100 octane you could probably go 100%
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02-07-2008, 10:10 AM | #22 |
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is that true about the air intake, Driver72? So I should install my air intake (got the MSDS Stage 1 and 2) first, and then install the downpipes? Since I have the catback exhaust already, you say the "limit" is because of the stock intake.. Thanks
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