[Al3029]

Someone is selling a set of Brembo's(just the fronts, with rotors) from a F30, what would I need to have them fit my 2012 E93?

The guy wants $850, not sure if this is a good price, would have to get them powder coated.

Bmw said they don't make a brembos for E90's and the F30 won't be compatible.

[mashimarho]

Everything should work on our platforms. It's the bracket, brake line, etc that is tailored to our cars.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by mashimarho

Everything should work on our platforms. It's the bracket, brake line, etc that is tailored to our cars.

What are you talking about? What bracket? There are no brackets from f30/80 brakes.
Is just a caliper that fits perfectly fine.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by Al3029

Someone is selling a set of Brembo's(just the fronts, with rotors) from a F30, what would I need to have them fit my 2012 E93?

The guy wants $850, not sure if this is a good price, would have to get them powder coated.

Bmw said they don't make a brembos for E90's and the F30 won't be compatible.

it fits, search some of mine threads, I'm the first who did a full swap, front and rear, 2y ago.

[Al3029]

Ok, so no brackets, etc is required but just the F30 rotors, correct?

I searched your threads, so I will also need to upgrade to an m3 master cylinder?

[feuer]

Originally Posted by Al3029

Ok, so no brackets, etc is required but just the F30 rotors, correct?

I searched your threads, so I will also need to upgrade to an m3 master cylinder?

Yes, f30 calipers with f30 rotors, your stock brake lines will work, you can't make the brake sensors work (at least I do not know how) and dust shield.

If you upgrade the front only leave the stock master cylinder in, if you are upgrading all 4 then upgrade to m3 master cylinder

[Al3029]

Originally Posted by feuer

Yes, f30 calipers with f30 rotors, your stock brake lines will work, you can't make the brake sensors work (at least I do not know how) and dust shield.

If you upgrade the front only leave the stock master cylinder in, if you are upgrading all 4 then upgrade to m3 master cylinder

ok, thanks...very helpful, appreciated.

[gavronm]

Has anyone ever looked at how the F30 upgrade may or may not impact the performance of the dynamic stability control? I'm not talking traction control - I'm talking stability control.

I've gotten into it once on the street and several times on the track when the car started to get away from me a bit and it is incredible how it sorts things out by selectively applying braking to individual wheels.

I'm concerned that swapping to F30 calipers or worse, swapping only to front F30 calipers, will throw off the calibration of the DSC system and reduce its effectiveness.

I love the idea of upgrading with BMW components for less than the cost of an aftermarket big brake kit but am concerned about installing and mixing parts that weren't designed specifically for our cars.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by gavronm

Has anyone ever looked at how the F30 upgrade may or may not impact the performance of the dynamic stability control? I'm not talking traction control - I'm talking stability control.

I've gotten into it once on the street and several times on the track when the car started to get away from me a bit and it is incredible how it sorts things out by selectively applying braking to individual wheels.

I'm concerned that swapping to F30 calipers or worse, swapping only to front F30 calipers, will throw off the calibration of the DSC system and reduce its effectiveness.

I love the idea of upgrading with BMW components for less than the cost of an aftermarket big brake kit but am concerned about installing and mixing parts that weren't designed specifically for our cars.

Why do you drive on track with DSC on?

[gavronm]

Originally Posted by feuer

Why do you drive on track with DSC on?

Because at my level it doesn't intrude on my driving unless I'm probably about to lose the car and I'm humble enough to know my own limits.

Maybe someday I'll be good enough to induce controlled 4-wheel drifts on command and at that point I'll probably conclude that DSC is intruding on my ability to get better and go faster and I'll turn it off.

Until then I'll keep my ego in check, the DSC on, and my daily-driven car on the pavement.

I watched two apparently overconfident but under-talented guys separately wad up their 80+ thousand dollar cars on the first turn of their out lap because they decided "this time out I don't need traction control." I don't wanna be that guy even if my car's only worth about 1/4 of that.

Anyway, as the pioneer of the F30 retrofit - something I truly admire and respect you for - is the effect of the retrofit on DSC performance anything you considered or looked into? It's a relevant question regardless of whether one tracks the car.

[M335]

Originally Posted by feuer

Yes, f30 calipers with f30 rotors, your stock brake lines will work, you can't make the brake sensors work (at least I do not know how) and dust shield.

If you upgrade the front only leave the stock master cylinder in, if you are upgrading all 4 then upgrade to m3 master cylinder

Here's mine 2011 335i e90 lci with M performace calipers(F30), front brake rotors(370mm),CoolCarbon brake pads, stainless steel brake lines and new e90 brake pads sensor

[feuer]

Originally Posted by M335

Here's mine 2011 335i e90 lci with M performace calipers(F30), front brake rotors(370mm),CoolCarbon brake pads, stainless steel brake lines and new e90 brake pads sensor

Hey, that combo looks awesome! Why don't you tell us how you mod the brake sensors?

[M335]

Originally Posted by feuer

Hey, that combo looks awesome! Why don't you tell us how you mod the brake sensors?

no mods needed, its plug & play
I use F30 performance
brake pads CoolCarbon(for F30 Brembo performance calipers) with OEM BMW e90 brake pads sensor.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by M335

no mods needed, its plug & play]

Mono block calipers have sensors on both pads, inner and outer. At least that is how mine came when I did this few years ago. If you just stick your e90 single sensor in one of the pads is not really making it work as to what I was reffering. This made mine f30 sensors open curcuit system vs the e90 closesd circuit system. See to photo bellow.

[M335]

Originally Posted by feuer

Mono block calipers have sensors on both pads, inner and outer. At least that is how mine came when I did this few years ago. If you just stick your e90 single sensor in one of the pads is not really making it work as to what I was reffering. This made mine f30 sensors open curcuit system vs the e90 closesd circuit system. See to photo bellow.

Here's mine stock sensor from 2011 e90 335i




And this one is a new updated OEM BMW Genuine for my 2011 335i which directly fits to F30

[feuer]

Originally Posted by M335

this one is a new updated OEM BMW Genuine for my 2011 335i which directly fits to F30

Awesome, good find.

[Bent_remy]

Originally Posted by M335

no mods needed, its plug & play
I use F30 performance
brake pads CoolCarbon(for F30 Brembo performance calipers) with OEM BMW e90 brake pads sensor.

I'm so doing this when its time to change my brakes.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by gavronm

I'm concerned that swapping to F30 calipers or worse, swapping only to front F30 calipers, will throw off the calibration of the DSC system and reduce its effectiveness.

It would fall into the same thrash hold as upgrading the tires and the brake pads. Remember that brake torque is dependent on how sticky the tires are and how grabby the brake compound is. Also, the road conditions vary and it could vary from wheel to wheel in any given situation. True, the ABS system is calibrated but is calibrated to work with all of these variables. To give you peace of mind I will tell you that it has been almost 3 years since I did this swap and have done other brake swaps on others vehicles with zero adverse effects.

[HP Autosport]

Originally Posted by feuer

it fits, search some of mine threads, I'm the first who did a full swap, front and rear, 2y ago.

Was that before or after our R&D?

[feuer]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Was that before or after our R&D?

I don't know exactly when your R&D took place but I remember fellow forum member (Vasillalov) telling me after I installed the brakes that HP could not build the kit because it required custom pads. He got the info from here:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=168
Mine was done in March or April 2013, it was 24h turnover for both front and rear.
I do my own research and is not my first one off brake adaptation.
In 2010 I was the first who went around the new el.parking brake caliper introduced on VW and Audis and I installed 911 caliper on the front and rear.

Anyhow, no disrespect to you.

[HP Autosport]

Just curious as to when you did the work is all.

[feuer]

Originally Posted by HP Autosport

Just curious as to when you did the work is all.

A lot of R&D as you call it unfortunately does not end up on the forums for one reason or another.

The F30 brakes were introduced at prices low enough to strip the incentive to re-sale for profit.
So I can see why forum sponsor scrap the idea...

The F30 M Performace could be had for about $1500, front and rear, with rotors and fully loaded calipers.

That is why I give up on the building a kit with Porsche sourced calipers. Wasn't worth the trouble.

Probably, I shouldn't have. Be more unique that way!

*notice the blue 993 GT2 race car in the background*