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| 01-16-2016, 04:18 PM | #1 |
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Turbo Siren - normal or sign of failing turbos?
Recently, my turbos have developed a siren noise at low RPMS (2000-3000 rpm). I hear it mostly in 2nd gear. It's more pronounced with a cold engine, but still audible when the engine warms up.
I don't hear it beyond 3000 rpm or in other gears. I have been doing lots of research regarding this issue and have read every thread. However, there was has not been any consensus on this issue yet. Anyone have any more information regarding if this turbo siren noise is normal or sign of failing turbos? Also, I'd like to add that I had my turbos replaced under warranty 1 year ago. I'm FBO (except inlets), PTF tuned 93 octane. See below for a youtube link of the turbo siren noise, recorded by "Lambobimmer." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kqJCzO4Ms Thanks all. |
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| 01-16-2016, 06:11 PM | #4 |
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Its hard to say. slight leak and slightly worn turbo bearings sound just about the same. I am leaning towards not being turbo bearings because: a) too many people complain of this b) mileage is very low for this type of failure even on these dinosaur Mitsubishi turbos c) don't want to replace turbos yet again lol.
I don't hear any whine at all once car is warmed up or in summer like weather but its very obvious when cold. |
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| 01-17-2016, 02:39 PM | #6 |
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Rear turbo inlet could be a bit loose, I had the same sound
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| 01-17-2016, 05:18 PM | #9 |
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Usually EXCESSIVE turbo siren on a hot engine is the issue.
Turbo siren with a cold engine and especially with modifications like intake and tune is fairly normal. I've had two E92 and they both do it when it's cold out. |
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| 01-17-2016, 05:35 PM | #11 | |
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It is also non existent at idle and only howls under load |
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Some days it's louder then other days. This would be excessive sound If it does this with a fully warmed up car and does it all the time then you have turbo failure. The dealer is going to be pretty picky on replacing turbo's just for this sound alone. Especially if it's inconsistent or not able to duplicate when warmed up as it is a common characteristic of this car. They usually look for drivability issues, CEL, smoking, ETC I wouldn't sweat the noise, personally. |
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| 01-17-2016, 05:45 PM | #14 | ||
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It's very consistent. Since the day it first started it has made the turbo siren noise every single day - same volume. It does slightly improve when engine is warmer, but the sound is still there both on cold and warm engine. I find it very frustrating since my turbos are just barely 1 year old, replaced under warranty. Thanks very much for all the information. |
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| 01-17-2016, 05:50 PM | #15 | |
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If it does it day to day like that and when it gets warm out then it may be a concern. |
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| 01-17-2016, 05:52 PM | #16 | |
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Boost is perfect though (up to 19 PSI protuned), and no performance issues. I'll investigate a bit more. I really appreciate all your thoughts and advice Jeff. |
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| 01-18-2016, 09:56 PM | #17 |
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I am having the exact same issues since Saturday night when I got a 30FE code and had my downpipes installed on Tuesday of that week. I have talked to some about this and some say it might be because the vacuum hoses or tanks are leaking. Anyone else have any ideas?
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| 01-18-2016, 10:24 PM | #18 | |
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All I can say is that I strongly dislike turbos. Enough said. |
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| 01-18-2016, 10:42 PM | #19 | ||
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Thats it right thurr. But i noticed now that you mention it that It does only do it sometimes. Quote:
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| 01-18-2016, 11:27 PM | #20 |
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I had my turbos replaced by the dealer, any then this noise started I believe right after or soon after.
Jeff my sound is always there. Why would it matter if the car is cold or warm? And is it easy to check and do the inlets?
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| 01-19-2016, 09:44 AM | #21 |
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My turbo makes the same exact sound but only when cold. The sound disappears when you go over 2000rpm. It's obviously not a boost leak since it only happens when it's cold but I'm not completely ruling that out.
I would be interested to know if this means the turbo is on its way out or it just means the bearings are not properly lubricated because it's cold.
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| 01-19-2016, 10:46 AM | #22 |
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Don't worry about it. My stock turbos made that sound for 2 years before I upgraded to hybrids and they made incredible boost and didn't leak oil during that time. If your turbos start to smoke or not make boost that's when you should worry.
FYI, my stock turbos are still working and I beat the crap out of them trying to break them and they never did. They are pulling strong in another car now. |
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