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      05-18-2009, 04:58 PM   #1
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Paddle Function Change?

So lately I have noticed that the 3 series has a very strange paddle setup... Pull in = Shift up, Push out = Shift down. Most cars have... Right pull = Shift up, Left Pull = Shift Down. Does anyone know how to setup the 3 series paddles this way?
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      05-18-2009, 05:05 PM   #2
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It's actually very intuitive to me. Pushing out is like shifting down from 4th to 3rd gear on stickshift. Pulling in is like shifting up.

I believe only a few manufacturer "does it right" (or so Car & Driver says): BMW, Mazda and 1 or 2 more. May not be to everyone's liking, but I like it the way it is.
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what about downshifting from 3rd to 2nd and upshifting from 2nd to 3rd?
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Good argument - but when downshifting from 3rd to 2nd you have to slide the shifter to the left, so it's not really a direct analogy of pulling in the lever.
Anyway, it IS a subjective topic.
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How is it setup on an F1 car?
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Looks like I was majorly wrong...
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I did this to my 09 335i and it makes a world of difference. I have driven SMGII and SMGIII equipped M cars for the past 7 years so this was a "must do" for me.

Very easy to do and can easily be reversed. No cutting/splicing required. Just move a few pins around in the paddles and you're done.

Here are the specifics for the functions described above:

Left Connector
1) Remove the wire and pin that go to pin 3 and tape off the exposed pin (disables push function)
2) Remove the wire and pin that go to pin 1 and install it in the pin 3 location (converts pull function to downshift)

Right Connector
1) Remove the wire and pin that goes to pin 1 and tape off the exposed pin (disables push function)


More detailed instructions can be found here:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=699
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I did this to my 09 335i and it makes a world of difference. I have driven SMGII and SMGIII equipped M cars for the past 7 years so this was a "must do" for me.

Very easy to do and can easily be reversed. No cutting/splicing required. Just move a few pins around in the paddles and you're done.

Here are the specifics for the functions described above:

Left Connector
1) Remove the wire and pin that go to pin 3 and tape off the exposed pin (disables push function)
2) Remove the wire and pin that go to pin 1 and install it in the pin 3 location (converts pull function to downshift)

Right Connector
1) Remove the wire and pin that goes to pin 1 and tape off the exposed pin (disables push function)


More detailed instructions can be found here:
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=699
THAT is what I was looking for. Appreciate the help Max.
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Or you could get the DCT paddles which are plug and play and designed with right side upshift (+) and left side downshift (-). When I first drove my car I was used to driving other paddle shift cars that were designed the 'right way' as far as I am concerned. I was killing my transmission for the first day constantly shifting opposite of what I meant to.

The other benefit is that the DCT paddles have a much more 'positive' feel to them than the stock paddles do. They 'click' with each shift. The stock paddles feel mushy in comparison.

Although they are a bit pricey for what you get, they are one of my favorite mods that I feel make a big difference in everyday driving. The action on them is much closer to that of the F1 paddles on Ferraris. If you do a search on DCT paddles you'll find more info. But if the other suggestion works just as well and doesn't cost anything other than a few minutes of your time, I'd start there!
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Or you could get the DCT paddles which are plug and play and designed with right side upshift (+) and left side downshift (-). When I first drove my car I was used to driving other paddle shift cars that were designed the 'right way' as far as I am concerned. I was killing my transmission for the first day constantly shifting opposite of what I meant to.

The other benefit is that the DCT paddles have a much more 'positive' feel to them than the stock paddles do. They 'click' with each shift. The stock paddles feel mushy in comparison.

Although they are a bit pricey for what you get, they are one of my favorite mods that I feel make a big difference in everyday driving. The action on them is much closer to that of the F1 paddles on Ferraris. If you do a search on DCT paddles you'll find more info. But if the other suggestion works just as well and doesn't cost anything other than a few minutes of your time, I'd start there!
Yeah, the only issue I see for getting the M3 Paddle is if I end up selling the car later on down the road...
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Yeah, the only issue I see for getting the M3 Paddle is if I end up selling the car later on down the road...
...the new owner gets a surprise goodie?
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...the new owner gets a surprise goodie?
More than likely a buyer will want a stock vehicle, not a modded one.

I hate even talking like I'm selling my car...
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More than likely a buyer will want a stock vehicle, not a modded one.

I hate even talking like I'm selling my car...
I see it as in improvement. I'm sure if you don't make anything of it when you sell it, the only people who would care/notice it would know it's from the M3 and at that point it becomes a positive point.
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I see it as in improvement. I'm sure if you don't make anything of it when you sell it, the only people who would care/notice it would know it's from the M3 and at that point it becomes a positive point.
If I get bored of the stock paddles I might change it up. Besides, I'm a big fan of keeping things stock looking.
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Huh, nice to know a simple change can be made for this. I wondered the same also. The first few days with step was a bit awkward. Now, I actually like the ability to shift up OR down on either paddle. I perhaps understand why BMW didn't make this an option but good to know a nice tip is there to make the switch.
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I did the quick rewire on the stock paddles and I love it. Feels much more intuitive and as has been said above - it's the right way for paddles to work.

I also got used to shifting with the pull / push action and it was actually difficult to acclimatize to the new "right" way of doing things, but it took maybe 10 minutes and I was up and running and like I say above - I love it!
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How easy is this to do for wiring noobs?
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How easy is this to do for wiring noobs?
Looks pretty easy. The hard part looks to be (from a separate DIY's info) getting the steering wheel off and getting up enough balls to take out the airbag. I might get an interior savvy friend to do it for me.
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Do it right ... get the tri-stitched wheel and the DCT paddles!

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nice to know a simple change can be made for this significant function..i just hope I can find a simple way to repair my aem cold air intake..

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