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08-07-2009, 11:33 AM | #1 |
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335i E90 LCI – review and experiences
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Attention! Overlong article – not for people with short attention span! After having driven more than 11.000 km with my new vehicle, I would like to share my experiences with this forum. I have divided the review into several categories in order to simplify the reading and so that people can only read the part of the review that is of interest to them. Why 335i? My previous ride was an Alpina B3 3,3 (E46) with 280 hp (crank) which I acquired in 2006 and with which I was very satisfied: After it exceeded the 100.000km mark, I believed that it was time to look out for a successor; several choices came to my mind and here are the pros and cons that I weighed in my mind:
2. Choice of colour and optional equipment
3. Experience: Look and feel The problem with all the BMW Individual parts was that these are so rare that I could not find a car with exactly the same combination in order to see what it looks like in real life. As a result I ordered the car more or less blindly pursuant to the photos in the catalogue and some others that some forum members provided. However I was completely bowled over when I picked up the car – the combination of the dark exterior colour and the light interior colour was simply amazing. Very classy, elegant and also unusual – even now after almost 6 months I’m happy every time I enter the car and look at that combination of colours. The azurite black paint has a dark blue shine under direct sunlight, and its quality is really first rate. I believe all paints from the BMW Individual selection are finished with 5 layers, as to only 3 for normal metallic finishes. It’s more care intensive than silver, of course, and I’ve visited the car wash somewhat more often than before. First of all some photos of the car from outside: First photo – from the side:: Second photo – front from the side: Third photo – again front from the side: Fourth photo – from the side under direct sunlight: Also some photos from the interior: First photo – interior back: Second photo – interior front passenger seat: Third photo – interior driver’s seat: As you can see I also took the option „shadowline“ which nicely accentuates the azurite black colour and gives the car a more sportive touch. You can order the dark roof lining in a package with the BMW Individual options and the steering wheel with the wood trim, which is also something I haven’t seen anywhere else until now and looks quite elegant in my opinion. I also ordered the smoker’s package (as a non-smoker) in order to avoid the ugly whole above the gear lever that would be there otherwise. The steering wheel has a larger rim than the normal sport steering whel, is nicely upholstered and has excellent grip. The Merino champagne leather has a better feel to it than the normal Dakota leather and is not too care intensive in spite of its colour. Right now I clean the front seats and the arm rest once a month which is sufficient to remove the slight discolourings that come along with normal use. The components of the Alpina aerodynamics package (front and rear spoilers) fit like OEM parts – really perfect. I had them painted and mounted at Alpina in Buchloe, and it looks just as if the car was manufactured with these parts. The Alpina Classic rims are a bit more noticeable on this car than on my previous Alpina due to the dark colour, but do not look oversized in 19 inches. As mentioned above, I mounted Michelin Pilot Sport tires in 235 mm (front) and 265 mm (back) on them, and for that the fenders had to be slightly modified which was also done at Alpina directly. I’m considering a slight lowering of the car (20 mm) to remove the space between the wheels and the fender, which could be done next year. Here are some more shots: First photo – Alpina front spoiler: Second photo – Alpina rear spoiler: Third photo – Alpina classic rims 19 inch: 4. Experience: engine This N54 (as the experts call it) is really a marvel and one of the big plus factors of the car. Even though Audi and Mercedes now manage to build some very good engines, this 3 litre biturbo is really great engineering, and in the end exactly what I had been looking for: pushes powerfully from low revs, doesn’t stop until more than 6000 rpm and is very linear in its deployment. Excellent throttle response as well (although of course not as spontaneous and razor-sharp as a naturally aspirated engine), very elastic and revs smoothly as BMW’s sixpacks are supposed to. On the Autobahn you can in the end drive it like with an automatic transmission – from 80 km/h on you use the 6th gear and are still much faster than almost all other traffic, if need be. Due to the very even and smooth power output you almost don’t have the feeling to drive a forced induction car – you’d rather think it’s a big V8 engine. That is for a car with more than 300 hp almost too unspectacular, but every time you look at the speedo you’re surprised how fast you’re actually going. Fuel consumption depends very much from your driving style – around 10l on 100km is no problem with a rather defensive driving style, but driving in the city or at WOT all the time on the motorway more than 13l can be realised just as easily. While driving in a quite dynamic manner I have calculated an average of 12,3l for 100km (around 29 miles per gallon), which is a very good value for the power on offer. 5. Experience: Tires / suspension / steering / brakes / comfort When I picked it up, the car was equipped with the stock rims in 17 inch (model no. 285) on runflat winter tires (which I had ordered specifically as I wanted to use the 19 inch Alpina rims as summer wheels). I was rather disappointed with these, as the car seemed less comfortable than my already quite sportive Alpina, although the latter had 18” wheels and a sport suspension. In particular the response on short bumps was quite bad, and on the motorway the suspension as a whole had a wooden feeling to it. That changed however abruptly when, some days later, I had the Alpina wheels without runflat tires mounted: In spite of the bigger diameter the travel comfort was much better, the suspension seemed more supple. I will therefore sell my 17” wheels in autumn and have already acquired other winter wheels – 19 inch BMW Performance rims with Vredestein Wintrac Xtreme (235mm on all wheels), non-runflat and with a clearance for up to 270 km/h. – The noise level of the car is generally lower than in the E46, only from 200 km/h on upwards do wind and wheel noises increase. – The seats are very comfortable and it is easy to find an ideal position due to the multiple possibilities to adjust all kinds of things – now even the upper lateral support of the seat can be adjusted in width. Together with the lordosis support these are very comfortable even for long distances. In my previous car I had the completely electric adjustable seats, but I don’t miss that at all – the partly electric adjustment I now have is quite sufficient, if you ask me, except if you change the car’s driver frequently and therefore need the memory function. The suspension – just to be precise: it’s the stock suspension, not the M suspension – is already very good: little roll, excellent cornering ability (as expected for a 3 series) and good-natured even in critical situations. Even if you do stupid things with it, you never have the impression that the suspension may do something unpredictable. On public roads you cannot really test the limits of this suspension, in particular if you have such wide tires as I do now; and in spite of such substantial reserves it is still quite comfortable. The DSC is not overbearing either, you only notice it when you accelerate too much in a turn or when the tarmac is slippery. The car stays quite solid even when driving at very high speeds on the Autobahn (more than 230 km/h). On the track or on winding country roads one could however think of a more direct steering response and less roll and pitch. In the medium term I think that I’ll invest into the Bilstein B16 Ride Control suspension and put some M3 parts into the car, but that won’t be done before next year. The steering is very direct and conveys a good sense of contact to the road. I have the so-called active steering which changes the parameters of the steering depending on the speed. This is one of the big differences that I feel every time I drive that car, compared to my previous E46. I know there are quite a lot of discussions about the merits of this particular steering, but I can’t imagine driving without it. Takes some getting used to, of course, as in particular at low speeds you tend to turn the wheel more than necessary at first. But once you know how it reacts, it’s so much fun – the car feels almost like a cart on curvy roads, and it’s very practical if you’re parking in an underground garage (as I do every day). What I do feel quite well are the actions of the so-called electronic differential that the 3 series have built in since the facelift. It’s not really a differential but rather an additional function of the DSC which brakes the rear wheel that starts to spin due to too much power. It does not (as would a mechanic differential such as the Quaife) transfer torque from one wheel to the other. The driving characteristics of the car become probably somewhat more stable through this, but mainly it just eats away the power, in particular if you accelerate in first or second gear. It is somewhat irritating that you do feel its intervention quite clearly, but the DSC lamp does not blink when the electronic differential is activated. I will therefore certainly invest into a Quaife differential in the course of next year. As far as the brakes are concerned, they have been sufficient so far – strong grip when necessary, can be modulated quite easily and no fading even under strain. Also the response during rain (that was a major problem with the E46) is generally good, even though on my last trip I noticed a delayed response and a tendency of the car to veer to the right when braking hard. It seems therefore that BMW does not yet have this problem completely under control; I think that I’ll be investing into a big brake kit (probably Brembo) with slotted discs at one point in time, also to have more stopping power from very high speeds (more than 250 km/h). In the meantime I’ll observe this and if it becomes worse I’ll replace the discs with slotted ones (EBC just offered those) and mount better brake pads at the same time (such as the Cool Carbon ones). 6. Experience: GPS, BMW Online The new GPS Professional – along with the modified iDrive – is the best system I’ve used so far. Much better than both the system on my E46 or the previous one on the E9x – much higher resolution, excellent readability, very fast calculation and a usability due to the modified menu structure and the additional buttons of the iDrive that leaves nothing to be desired. The operation of it by way of vocal commands also works very well, but you clearly have to spend some time working through the manual in order to get everything right. What could be improved is to offer a head-up display similar to the one offered for the 5 series, additional guidance elements besides the speedo (similar to Audi/VW) and (optional) display of all speed limits. I’m also a user of BMW Online since a few weeks, as this system is free for a period of three years for all those that have the big GPS unit (after such period a fee of 250 EUR p.a. has to be paid). It’s actually a mobile internet connection that works via an additional SIM card embedded into the car. As I don’t use my car very often professionally, this system (and in particular the option to have access to your e-mails) is not very important to me, as anyway it’s only properly usable while not driving. Information such as weather forecast, latest news or stock exchange rates is displayed flawlessly, and also the access to an address book (that can be transferred from Outlook or typed in on the internet) is quite useful. Integrated into the GPS is also the FCD or floating car data system by which the car receives additional traffic information from the BMW server. I was not yet able to properly judge the efficiency of that system, but it seems to me that independent of the TMC function traffic information is integrated into the route guidance rather quickly. Quite practical is also the possibility to obtain information and guidance free of charge from BMW, or to contact BMW in case of an accident or breakdown by way of a single button. You can also have the remote unlocking activated, which may be useful in some situations. 7. Experience: audio-system, iPod integration The sound quality of the BMW Individual high end system (originally developed for the M3) is first class. Fine spatialisation of all instruments, great dynamics, high transparency and distortion-free even at very high volumes. As I’m mostly listening to classical music and playing on a Steinway in my free time, a first-rate audio system was quite important to me, and even though I was satisfied with the hifi system of the E46, this high end system is much, much better. The best test for such a system typically is well-recorded piano music, and that really sounds fantastic. Even though the premium to be paid for this system is substantial, it was well worth the investment (at least for me). 16 speakers, big subwoofers under the front seats and careful adaptation of the whole system to the interior of the 3 series – you can hear it. The iPod integration is also very practical. I have an iPod Classic with 160GB hard disc, and it’s so much more practical than the CD changer I had in my previous car. I can choose between hundreds of different CDs, and everything is nicely displayed on the GPS screen and can be manipulated by the iDrive. The sound quality of the iPod is also quite good, but this obviously depends a lot on the bitrate and the encoding algorithm with which the tracks are converted. Only caveat: bleeping noises when the iPod’s hard disc is working and which are transmitted through the loudspeakers. 8. Modifications One of the reasons to choose the 335i engine was also that, due to ist biturbo concept, it should be easy to tune and achieve sizable gains in hp and torque with relatively minor modifications. I had therefore always the intention to increase its power at one point in time, and the speed limiter at 250 km/h also annoyed me, as already my Alpina with less power had a top speed of more than 260, and I’m not a fan of such patronizing behaviour in all its forms (even though realistically such top speeds can only be achieved very rarely). This intention to tune it was also one of the reasons for the Alpina aerodynamics components as well as for the bigger and wider wheels than what the 335i came with in stock form. Furthermore, following a tune the stock speedo is not sufficient any more, as it only goes until 280 km/h. I therefore took the decision to at once modify the stock speedo and to have a speedo with a scale that goes until 330 km/h and red needles installed (similar to Alpina or the M3). This has been done by the firm WSM, who are doing this for more or less all tuning companies in Germany. It took them about 3 hours, and the result looks as if it had been that way from the beginning: Moreover, if there’s something I was a bit disappointed in, it was the sound of the 335i. Even though I’m no fan of ricey sounding exhaust systems (“the louder the better”) where you need a hearing aid after 200 km, the 335i just sounded too tame, especially compared to my previous Alpina. If you have a car with more than 300 hp I think the sound can be a bit more on the sportive side, and so I started looking for some alternatives. The first I took into consideration was the BMW Performance exhaust, but I finally preferred a quad system for optical reasons. After a comparison between the Eisenmann sport and the Bastuck my vote went to the latter as it was less expensive than the Eisenmann but sounded just as good. Unfortunately there are no diffusors available for their quad system for the sedan (only for the E92/93), but I had the excellent company Daum Motorsport at hand who cut out the stock diffusor very precisely. It took several hundred kilometers to achieve the final sound, but now it sounds just like I wanted it to have – sharper, more throaty and beyond 4000 rpm outright angry without any droning. The tips stick out a bit (as Bastuck uses the same system for both the E90 and E92), but I like it that way. Here are some photos from the result: First photo – stock exhaust: Second photo – from the side after install of the Bastuck system: Third photo – from the side and behind (1): Fourth photo - from the side and behind (2): As you can see in my sig, there are a number of additional modifications that have been made since, in particular in view of an increase in power. I will write up a separate report on these (when I find the time). EDIT: An exhaustive review of my modifications can be found under the following link: click here for my mods review These are anyway my impressions until now – overall I’m very happy with the car which has fulfilled and even exceeded my expectations. Of course, there’s still room for improvement (see above), but it’s certainly a pleasure to drive in its current state. Alpina_B3_Lux
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Great review! I am so glad you translated the article for our benefit and taking care to provide all the detail. Thanks man!!! Your car looks pure class nothing like my 335 boy racer looks. Well done man!! I think you have also nailed the key modding issues of the 335 that need consideration: brakes; exhaust; suspension and an LSD. Once we start doing these we are in the M3 price territory and I sometimes wonder if it is all worth it...but then there is the torque and we smile again... Question: The exhaust looks good. Did i understand you correctly...the exhaust tuning was done to your sound specification? Any vids of the exhaust? The bastuck exhaust sounds on youtube is simply amazing. Must get that speedo conversion...great!
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wow- we totally get the shaft here on cool models..
And here I thought my M-sport was cool... Must be the german's way of saying - Ha! you have to drive slow and are americans... Take this very average option package as punishment for being so dull. |
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08-07-2009, 02:19 PM | #4 |
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Yeah, get that LSD in there and call it a day. Alpina styling has always been my favorite, though it doesn't really please the younger crowd usually.
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I'll try to do some soundfiles one of these days and put them on YouTube. It's particularly amazing when you cold start it or drive in a tunnel and then rev it up...! Alpina_B3_Lux
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i love my e92 M sport, but id give it up in a heartbeat for an alpina. one thing im looking to do is eventualy change my dials to that alpina blue color.
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BMW, can I have some LSD please?
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Great extensive review!
Have you thought about doing a short shift kit, or even a simple change of the shift knob to the M shift knob? It would help to shorten the slightly longish shift distance and enhance your MT experience!
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I'm reposting these 2 pics from someone who had done a comparison.
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I love your car! It looks the best.
Good call to get rid off the run flats. I did the same. However: there seems to be a new generation around, which is said to be a lot better in comfort. But tha't's something to worry about for the next set. Do you know if the frontlip fits on a non sports package E90 with Active Cruise Control? Please let me know how you go with the LSD. I want to have the Quaife, but so far I did not find anybody to install it in The Netherlands. |
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As to the front lip, I believe it would fit as I do not have the sports package. I don't have active cruise control, though, but I don't think that should be a problem as you can order it for the Alpina B3 BT as well. The LSD is a project for next year - I will probably go to Birdsauto in London directly to have it installed (and profit from the low GP exchange rate). Alpina_B3_Lux
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Great job putting together a classic car. Bilstein ride controls, M3 control arms etc., and LSD will further transform it into a real performance car.
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Thank you very much for your very informative review of your stunning new 335i !!!
I noted that you have swapped the RFTs for non-runflats. What will you do when and if your car has a flat tire on the autobahn or in some more remote location ???
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Here in Western Canada, BMW dealers are few and far between. Even with BMW Assist and a flat tire, one could be waiting for many hours or even a day in a remote location. That's why I carry the M Mobility pack for long trips, so if need be, I can seal and re-inflate the tire.
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