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      09-01-2009, 07:04 PM   #1
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335i: Rebuild project car

So i'm looking at this car with a clean title that needs the front end rebuilt. Everything looks straight but basically i'm trying to get an idea of what all the parts are called so I can price them and make a decision.

Will need:
Driver side Fender and wheel well plastic pieces
Both headlights
bumper cover
Bumper reinforcement
Hood
Drive side Tie Rod
Intake hose from filter area to grille area.
New grill
Miscellaneous lights/wiring in the bumper area
Stock front left rim 17" alloy 10 spoke
Double scoop dash
Driver AND passenger airbag

And the piece that has me puzzled right now is the brace/bar that goes from the left fender to the right fender. I don't know what this is called, but in the middle its the hood latch. This last one is the part I need to identify, Everything else I can figure out. If anyone knows off hand the best place or price for any of these pieces i'd appreciate it. I don't need to buy everything new either.

Also, what about deployed airbags. Besides the bags and the dash, is there any kind of solenoid that is ruined? Anything that needs to be done to the ECU etc? Are there airbag/impact sensors in the bumper area that will need replaced etc? The car runs fine radiator/fmic all that looks good just a broken tie rod.

In this picture what exactly is all inclusive in this area I have circled? What major parts are here structurally? Where do they connect to besides the bolts on either side by the fenders? Another thing, what holds up the radiator/fmic/fan assembly? Where is it bolted to?

Thanks a ton!
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If you don't know what the parts are then this isn't a project for you...
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All airbag sensors need to be replaced, and the ECU may need to be replaced. The airbag control unit is basically exhausted once the airbags go off because it saves a plethora of the data and such after a crash for diagnostic/legal purposes (if necessary).

Also, use a thicker paint brush on the picture cause I can barely even see those lines.
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If you don't know what the parts are then this isn't a project for you...
You know what. I've rebuilt manual transmissions, engines, installed turbo systems, of course most bolt ons on several cars. I'm mechanically capable of doing any of this work, i'm just not hip on the exact terminology of the parts so I can make the determination if the cost is justifiable. I don't need someone to tell me what I am or am not able to do. Body work is a new area for me and this is why I said this is a PROJECT car. Please get out of my thread if you don't have anything positive to contribute. You can troll at 4chan. If you are so much more knowledgable than me, Help me out and tell me the name of the part or part #. Thanks!.... BTW, I didn't know bmw sold 335ix's. I was pretty sure they were all 335XI.... For all I know you don't even own one.

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All airbag sensors need to be replaced, and the ECU may need to be replaced. The airbag sensors are basically exhausted once they go off because they save a plethora of the data and such after a crash for diagnostic/legal purposes (if necessary).
Thanks! Keep the info coming i'm absorbing everything. Anyone know how much a replacement DME Is? And what kind of work has to be done to integrate it into a new vehicle? Is a new DME necessary for an airbag deployment in these cars?
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You know what. I've rebuilt manual transmissions, engines, installed turbo systems, of course most bolt ons on several cars. I'm mechanically capable of doing any of this work, i'm just not hip on the exact terminology of the parts so I can make the determination if the cost is justifiable. I don't need someone to tell me what I am or am not able to do. Body work is a new area for me and this is why I said this is a PROJECT car. Please get out of my thread if you don't have anything positive to contribute. You can troll at 4chan. If you are so much more knowledgable than me, Help me out and tell me the name of the part or part #. Thanks!....
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Good luck on the build, post pics as you go along.. I'd help if I could but this kinda stuff isn't really my speciality.
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OWNED!

Good luck on the build, post pics as you go along.. I'd help if I could but this kinda stuff isn't really my speciality.
Hehe, The build and process along the way is 80% of the fun! I will def post beforehand horror pics and afterwards OMG I can't believe it pics haha. Well. Hopefully.
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OWNED!

Good luck on the build, post pics as you go along.. I'd help if I could but this kinda stuff isn't really my speciality.
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And the piece that has me puzzled right now is the brace/bar that goes from the left fender to the right fender. I don't know what this is called, but in the middle its the hood latch. This last one is the part I need to identify, Everything else I can figure out. If anyone knows off hand the best place or price for any of these pieces i'd appreciate it. I don't need to buy everything new either.
I think you are talking about item number 1 in this picture: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...58&hg=51&fg=75

For ordering parts I would recommend www.getbmwparts.com or parts.crownauto.com

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http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...58&hg=51&fg=75



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01 FRONT PANEL 1 51647058594 $349.29
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01 FRONT PANEL -M- 1 51718040280 $349.29 +core
02 Air guidance, top front 1 51117134099 $25.10
03 Seal, cooling module 2 51647134101 $4.60
04 Seal, front panel/cooler at top 1 51647134102 $6.16
05 Fillister head screw ISA M6X18 24 07/2007 41618172499 ENDED
05 Torx bolt ISA M6X18 SW 24 07146959923 $0.80
05 Oval-head screw with anti-rotation lock ISA M6X18 4 07146978618 $3.71
05 Torx-bolt with washer ISA M6X9 4 07/2007 51238165044 ENDED
05 Torx-bolt with washer ISA M6X12 4 07146985055 $0.55
06 Clip nut M6 16 41357060601 $1.01
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10 Hex bolt M6X12 2 07147154229 $0.28
10 Hex bolt 4 07146953594 $0.20
10 Hex bolt M6X52-10.9- 4 07146989591 $6.66
11 Brace for catch 1 51647116693 $19.81
12 Lock plate, left 1 51647116705 $24.29
12 Lock plate, right 1 51647116706 $24.29
13 Locat. plate f. cool. mod., lower left 1 51647117811 $11.94
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@erensf & Richwm

Holy crap that is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Thank you so much! Now, if anyone has any insight or experience with any part of the process with replacing airbags or the front clip/body work please let me know! I'm still looking for other sources of this information to compare with as well. TYSM!

EDIT: What should I do about the parts that are discontinued? I'm sure someone stocks them? They certainly can't have stopped making parts for a car that is only 2 years old. Most manufacturers will produce parts for 10-15 years.
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Out of curiosity, why would the front need a rebuild if it has a clean title. You'll have to excuse my ignorance considering I bought my '06 330xi a couple weeks ago and still havent had a chance to drive it yet (first chance this weekend!)
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Funny thing is, unless there is an unexpected chassis issue, or the Wheel housing/engine support, I think I may come out under budget as long as I try to do most of the work myself, which will consume probably the better part of a few months. But thats the point of a project yes? I'm just worried about the airbag system and making sure I get everything together secure and sound. I want it like it was repaired professionally. Has anyone, or does anyone know of someone who has had airbags replaced?
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Out of curiosity, why would the front need a rebuild if it has a clean title. You'll have to excuse my ignorance considering I bought my '06 330xi a couple weeks ago and still havent had a chance to drive it yet (first chance this weekend!)
There is no ignorance in your question. This car is a total loss claim, and apparently insurance companies have the decision to make it a salvage title or not. I'm going to assume the degree of damage on this particular vehicle was not severe enough structurally for them to give it a branded title(crossesfingers). Carfax and Autocheck will always report it though. I don't intend on selling the car for a profit, I intend to drive it and tune it and not worry about abusing a 40k investment.

EDIT: I asked the same thing as you
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      09-01-2009, 11:31 PM   #14
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Wait so it has a title which says it was in an accident, but not a salvage title. I guess I'll have to look up the difference.
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Wait so it has a title which says it was in an accident, but not a salvage title. I guess I'll have to look up the difference.
No. My understanding is that its a completely clear title. Due to the fact that an insurance company basically dumped it to some wholesaler for probably less than 10 grand to get rid of it, the title has 3 owners on the back of it, but its a clear title. Point in case, just because a car has a clear title doesn't mean anything. Just hope that carfax/autocheck report everything that has occured to the vehicle you are buying(not always). Everyone should be very careful when they buy a car for a very cheap price because it would be very simple to run a crumby business that just fixes these cars and sell them as new. In otherwords, always have the paint checked out by a professional to determine if the bumpers have been painted.
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No. My understanding is that its a completely clear title. Due to the fact that an insurance company basically dumped it to some wholesaler for probably less than 10 grand to get rid of it, the title has 3 owners on the back of it, but its a clear title. Point in case, just because a car has a clear title doesn't mean anything. Just hope that carfax/autocheck report everything that has occured to the vehicle you are buying(not always). Everyone should be very careful when they buy a car for a very cheap price because it would be very simple to run a crumby business that just fixes these cars and sell them as new. In otherwords, always have the paint checked out by a professional to determine if the bumpers have been painted.
I see. I should definitely check on mine then. '06 330xi for $16k (pretax)... except it has 77k miles on it (yes 77k). I'll take it to my mechanic for a thorough check when I actually get it into the same state as me.
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I see. I should definitely check on mine then. '06 330xi for $16k (pretax)... except it has 77k miles on it (yes 77k). I'll take it to my mechanic for a thorough check when I actually get it into the same state as me.
I do not keep up with the prices of cars, especially the 330 e90, but that doesn't sound too outrageous for a vehicle with that many miles... Does it have the extended warranty?
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yo dude. if theres a specific part you're looking for and are having trouble you can always try tischer.

getbmwparts.com

all that stuff is new but if you're having trouble its a pretty cool place to check out. email evan. he's givin me alot of help in the short time iv had my car. good luck with everything
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I do not keep up with the prices of cars, especially the 330 e90, but that doesn't sound too outrageous for a vehicle with that many miles... Does it have the extended warranty?
Nah it doesn't have extended warranty. And actually the price was below KBB (20k for KBB). But the original owner (I'm the 3rd owner) put 60k on the car in the first 2 years, can't imagine what he did with it.
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EDIT: What should I do about the parts that are discontinued? I'm sure someone stocks them? They certainly can't have stopped making parts for a car that is only 2 years old. Most manufacturers will produce parts for 10-15 years.
Some part numbers change when there is *upgrade* in the vehicle. Meaning, the parts may be exactly the same, but now used in a newer model year car, so the new part number takes priority and the old number is *discontinued*---even though its the exact same part.

Anyways, once you find the part number of the item you are looking for--cross check it at the website for Tischer BMW. You can search by part number. If a particular item has been *upgraded* it will give you the new number for the newer part. They also have pretty good prices overall for new parts if you happen to find something you need. Also, if you contact them directly (Evan/Jason), they can be quite helpful in tracking down items that you may need if you explain what you are looking to do.

Good luck man. BTW...in response to your original question, I believe the item you circled is part of the radiator support.
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My E46 330i was like that. less than years old, 46k miles. Thats a good thing tho, they are freeway miles, not idling getting engine wear.

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Awesome, I appreciate the advice. I will most likely be exploring all of these options. I will keep updating this thread as I move on. Now, lets just see if I can get the car tomorrow
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I purchased an Autocheck unlimited 60 day account if anyone needs a VIN checked please just PM me.

EDIT: STOP PMING ME! ITS BEEN WAY THE F*CK PAST 60 DAYS... In fact its been over on year since this post so stop lol. I'm tired of emptying my inbox.

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Report Run Date: 2009-09-02 02:33:53.503 EDT
VIN: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Year : 2007
Make : BMW
Model: 3-Series 335i
Style/Body: Sedan 4D
Class: Upscale - Near Luxury
Engine: 3.0L I6 DI
Country of Assembly: Germany
Vehicle Age: 2 year(s)
Calculated Owners: 1
Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 12

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checks_out Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck's database for this 2007 BMW 3-Series 335i (XXXXXXXXXXXXXX) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.

0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
image No abandoned title record
image No damaged title or major damage incident record
image No fire damaged title record
image No grey market title record
image No hail damage title record
image No insurance loss title or probable total loss record
image No junk or scrapped title record
image No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
image No odometer problem title record
image No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
image No salvage title or salvage auction record
image No water damaged title record
image No NHTSA crash test record
image No frame damage record
image No recycling facility record
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checks_out Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2007 BMW 3-Series 335i (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.
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image 12 07/17/2007
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image Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck shows no additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 2007 BMW 3-Series 335i (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations.
0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
image No fleet, rental and/or lease use record
image No taxi use record
image No police use record
image No government use record
image No livery use record
image No driver education record
0 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
image No accident record reported through accident data sources
image No corrected title record
image No duplicate title record
image No emission/safety inspection record
image No loan/lien record
image No fire damage incident record
image No repossessed record
image No theft record
image No storm area registration/title record
Full History

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Report Run Date: 2009-09-02 02:33:53.503 EDT

Vehicle: 2007 BMW 3-Series 335i (XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
07/09/2007 DALLAS, TX
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
07/17/2007 DALLAS, TX
12
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
07/01/2008 DALLAS, TX
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
06/09/2009 DALLAS, TX
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

The report is crystal clean. It scored a 94 when similar cars score a 93-92....

The reason this is disturbing, is that I have and will posses a clear title. And I can apply for a new title to wipe all those title transfers off I believe.. That, and my carfax/autocheck is also crystal clean. People need to not rely on these resources so heavily IMO...

In any case, Hey, it doesn't hurt to have a clean title/report as long as you realize whats wrong when you buy it!

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