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10-07-2012, 09:28 AM | #3 |
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I had a TT with the 1.8 turbo engine. The engine just never gave me trouble. Never. Everything else (interior trim, paint, etc) ended up falling appart. The VW paint didn't like south-east moist, it seems.
This is in sharp contrast with my BMW which gave me quite a bit of trouble, and mostly things that are "common". The car still runs strong and all, but maintenance budget has been steep (after CPO, that is, and the CPO clearly repaid for itself I must say). On the other end, interior trim and paint are not melting on this one... |
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10-07-2012, 09:49 AM | #6 |
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The problem with "luxury" cars, both Audi and BMW, is that none of them have the best reliability and parts are not cheap at all. With all that said I haven't had any problems with mine.
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10-07-2012, 09:54 AM | #8 |
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Since I sold my E92 last week I can officially talk about my HPFP problems, or lack there of without jinxing myself. I got my 07 to 87,000 miles without a single failure, oh and I ran it with a quarter of a tank or less from 70-87k miles, so fuel level obviously has nothing to do with it.
that being said I had the dreaded 2007 turbo wastegate issue. It was strictly an annoyance with the wastegates rattling but BMWNA replaced both turbos and the problem never arose again. When they replaced the turbos they replaced my HPFP due to recall even though I said DO NOT (since I thought I had a luck of the draw and zero issues up till then) well after the replacement I still had zero issues. Whoever said early model E92's were more prone to HPFP did not drive my baby |
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10-07-2012, 09:57 AM | #9 | |
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10-07-2012, 06:02 PM | #10 |
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When you compare audi to just 335, you will hear a lot of problems with the 335. But when you consider all of Audi's lineup vs all of BMW's lineup, I feel BMW comes out better in reliability. Nether of them are as good as the average jap car, however. But like any car, its always a hit or miss...
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10-07-2012, 07:36 PM | #12 | |
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10-07-2012, 08:37 PM | #14 | |
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Bottom line, all cars break.
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10-07-2012, 08:43 PM | #15 |
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Having been around the Automotive world for a while, I've found that Audi generally are pretty reliable, but their electronics suck at the 4-5yr mark. Also removing anything on an Audi requires the front end of the car and a motor pull. BMW may not be any more reliable but they have a better setup IMO for a DIY person.
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10-07-2012, 09:17 PM | #16 |
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Oddly enough Consumer Reports has the E46 M3 under it list of reliable used cars.
I would definitely say BMW/Audi/Mercedes have a bad rep when it comes to reliability. However, I believe a large part of that comes from many of their owners treating them like a Toyota. Yes, you actually need to maintain your BMW! Would it kill them to change their oil on schedule or at all?! Now I know that there are people out there that do everything they can and yet still end up with problems, but I don't think that's the common case. My TT had issues with the turbo and a few other things, but I was the third owner, which is another thing many BMW owners have in common. Most of the time you have no idea how the previous owner(s) treated it... I've got a mere 81k miles on mine ( bought it with 46k ) and so far so good, but only time will tell.
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10-08-2012, 08:36 AM | #18 |
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Audi reliability over the years has been worse than BMW I believe. In my experience with a 2002 A4 and now 2 E90 328i's the BMW's have been perfectly reliable with the only trips to the dealer for routine maintenance and a broken rear side window sun shade repaired in 5 minutes. My Audi was in the shop a lot, once for over 2 weeks and had 2 recalls.
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10-08-2012, 11:18 AM | #19 | |
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Audi can be really hit or miss as I know my step father has an A6 with well over 200k miles and its still going strong without any major problems. Modern BMWs are really consistent with problems. If one major problem plagues a particular model year then they all will have that same problem i.e. HPFP, Fuel Injectors, etc. It seems older BMWs like E30s and E34s last forever as I see 20+ year old E30s and E34s almost every day.
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10-08-2012, 12:15 PM | #20 | |
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According to other sources (not individual opinions like mine or yours) BMW are below average. We can't change that, it is what it is. Not EVERY single bmw is bad but majority have issues which is why they are rated below average. Older models seems to have had better reliability than e90 and up. It sucks and I own one but if someone asks me if they are reliable or not, the answer is NOT. They have many other positive things to rev about but reliability is not one of them. |
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10-08-2012, 12:18 PM | #21 | |
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I would like to disagree with you as I maintain my bmw like any other car I've had in the pass. 5000km oil changes, everything replaced way before the recommended intervals. taken care as a baby, best of the best for it but still it's the worst in reliability comparing to the rest of the cars i have owned. Proper maintenance is very important but when the machine is bad, it is bad. |
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10-08-2012, 12:25 PM | #22 |
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No one buys Audi or BMW for reliability. If that's what you're looking for, Mercedes & especially Lexus will be better but then you're stuck with a boring car. I have actually heard that the M3 manual is the most reliable BMW.
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