Top speed limiter

jmarino21 · 03-27-2013, 10:24 AM

Interesting question I came up with this morning:

My 2011 335xi has ZSP with 2BZ wheels (17" style 161). 2011 ordering guide says top speed limiter (840) only comes with ZSP+2S2 wheels (18"). Ran my vin at rubmw.ru and 840 isn't listed.

I would be inclined to believe that even with ZSP, I actually don't have the increased top speed limiter and thus my top speed is 130.

However, on the open road I have personally pushed the car up to 140 on the speedo. What gives??

-James

kdbryce · 03-27-2013, 10:55 AM

top speed is actually limited at 135 on your car. i got my old cars up to 138/139 (before msport)

i wrote it off as speedo error

jwzimm · 03-27-2013, 02:26 PM

yup, speedos read high. The increased top speed limiter is actually a result of adding the auxiliary oil cooler in the passenger side wheel well. They normally put this cooler on with the 18" wheels as the tires for the 17" wheels are normally all seasons and not rated to the higher speeds.

CallMeAl · 03-27-2013, 02:43 PM

If I have a Dinan stage 2 does it remove the limiter? What speed can it go with it?

CUTigers · 03-27-2013, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CallMeAl

If I have a Dinan stage 2 does it remove the limiter? What speed can it go with it?

Yes it removes the limiter.... Idk, my dash stopped at 160

CallMeAl · 03-27-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CUTigers

Quote:

Originally Posted by CallMeAl

If I have a Dinan stage 2 does it remove the limiter? What speed can it go with it?

Yes it removes the limiter.... Idk, my dash stopped at 160

Wow

dmatre · 03-27-2013, 02:49 PM

Just got back from Germany last weekend. Rented a 4-cyl 1-series.

130mph limiter actually kicked in at 127mph (according to GPS).

Blubaron79 · 03-27-2013, 03:01 PM

The new 4 series xDrive says you can't get an increased speed limiter. Do you think the MSport package will increase it?

C230AMG · 09-16-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CUTigers

Yes it removes the limiter.... Idk, my dash stopped at 160

you have a PM...

AndyR83 · 09-16-2013, 10:29 AM

I installed the Burger delimiter in mine. Prior to that, my limiter kicked in right on schedule.

e90335iftw · 09-16-2013, 12:24 PM

i drive a stock 335i with a sports package.
and i can go up to 155 mph.
how is that possible if the limit is 130?

Antetokounmpo · 09-16-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by e90335iftw

i drive a stock 335i with a sports package.
and i can go up to 155 mph.
how is that possible if the limit is 130?

xDrive models are all limited to 135 according to BMW because the tires "aren't capable of higher speeds" regular i models are 155 with the sport package and 135 w/o.

ThEnder · 09-16-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by e90335iftw

i drive a stock 335i with a sports package.
and i can go up to 155 mph.
how is that possible if the limit is 130?

Increased top speed limiter was part of the m-sport and I think the sport package too.

Speedwagon · 09-16-2013, 02:55 PM

When I ordered my E91 328IX 2012 while living in Germany. I had to pay $300.00 for the performance tires before I could get the Increased Top Speed limiter, there was no extra charge for the 840. It doesn't do much for me here in the US now but it was so much fun driving and seeing the speedometer at 155mph on the autobahn often. And yes the car drove like it was on rails at that speed!

David1 · 09-16-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

The new 4 series xDrive says you can't get an increased speed limiter. Do you think the MSport package will increase it?

You can. It is in the specs on line under the 435XI. 130 and 155.

BenõrTheBMW · 09-16-2013, 05:54 PM

Inset typical BMW response on how stupid you are doing this on a public road.

melloww22 · 09-16-2013, 08:00 PM

with M-Sport limit is @ 155 mph

BEAR-AvHistory · 09-17-2013, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenõrTheBMW

Inset typical BMW response on how stupid you are doing this on a public road.

OK you are stupid for doing this on a public road. That being said BMW generally limits the speed based on the tires the car is delivered with.

Might be some other limits for 4X4's or converts but I have not looked into it.

Only thing I would suggest for runs in Mexico on a 135mph limit car get a tune that will up the limit but be sure your tires are good for it. V=149mph & W=168. Pushing H rated tires over 130 would definitely qualify as stupid.

VTECaddict · 09-17-2013, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

OK you are stupid for doing this on a public road. That being said BMW generally limits the speed based on the tires the car is delivered with.

Might be some other limits for 4X4's or converts but I have not looked into it.

Only thing I would suggest for runs in Mexico on a 135mph limit car get a tune that will up the limit but be sure your tires are good for it. V=149mph & W=168. Pushing H rated tires over 130 would definitely qualify as stupid.

Yep, speed limiter is based on the tires that it came with from the factory. xi with sport package and staggered tires will get the 155 limit. xi with sport package but with just regular tires will still have 130.

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jmarino21 Private First Class 9 Rep 112 Posts Drives: 335i xDrive Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Cleveland, OH iTrader: (0)	Top speed limiter Interesting question I came up with this morning: My 2011 335xi has ZSP with 2BZ wheels (17" style 161). 2011 ordering guide says top speed limiter (840) only comes with ZSP+2S2 wheels (18"). Ran my vin at rubmw.ru and 840 isn't listed. I would be inclined to believe that even with ZSP, I actually don't have the increased top speed limiter and thus my top speed is 130. However, on the open road I have personally pushed the car up to 140 on the speedo. What gives?? -James
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jwzimm Colonel 707 Rep 2,770 Posts Drives: '16 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Renton, WA iTrader: (17)	yup, speedos read high. The increased top speed limiter is actually a result of adding the auxiliary oil cooler in the passenger side wheel well. They normally put this cooler on with the 18" wheels as the tires for the 17" wheels are normally all seasons and not rated to the higher speeds.
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CallMeAl Private 2 Rep 71 Posts Drives: 335xi Dinan Stage 2 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	If I have a Dinan stage 2 does it remove the limiter? What speed can it go with it? __________________ 2007 335xi / Dinan Stage 2 / Sparkling Metallic Grey / 6spd / More Upgrades to come
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dmatre Captain 801 Rep 745 Posts Drives: 2011 328i Sedan Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Carolinas iTrader: (0)	Just got back from Germany last weekend. Rented a 4-cyl 1-series. 130mph limiter actually kicked in at 127mph (according to GPS).
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Blubaron79 Brigadier General 1487 Rep 4,738 Posts Drives: 2021 M340i xDrive Join Date: May 2009 Location: PA iTrader: (0)	The new 4 series xDrive says you can't get an increased speed limiter. Do you think the MSport package will increase it? __________________ Current: 2021 M340i xDrive Previous: '18 340i xDrive; '15 335 xDrive; '14 435i xDrive; '09 335 E92 xDrive
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09-16-2013, 10:29 AM	#10
AndyR83 Major 71 Rep 1,024 Posts Drives: E92 335i FBO Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA iTrader: (5)	I installed the Burger delimiter in mine. Prior to that, my limiter kicked in right on schedule. __________________ Do NOT do business with IAN HAAN, aka n54bewst, aka 747tuned aka H17M3, a scammer who STILL has an account here on e90post!
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e90335iftw First Lieutenant 52 Rep 380 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	i drive a stock 335i with a sports package. and i can go up to 155 mph. how is that possible if the limit is 130?
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Speedwagon First Lieutenant 7 Rep 366 Posts Drives: Sportwagon Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Colorado iTrader: (0)	When I ordered my E91 328IX 2012 while living in Germany. I had to pay $300.00 for the performance tires before I could get the Increased Top Speed limiter, there was no extra charge for the 840. It doesn't do much for me here in the US now but it was so much fun driving and seeing the speedometer at 155mph on the autobahn often. And yes the car drove like it was on rails at that speed!
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BenõrTheBMW Second Lieutenant 45 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Plano,TX iTrader: (1)	Inset typical BMW response on how stupid you are doing this on a public road. __________________ 2009 E82 135i 6MT FBO
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melloww22 Captain 111 Rep 955 Posts Drives: 2011 335i E90 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	with M-Sport limit is @ 155 mph
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