[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

What is the "that" you refer to above? The fact that a new 3 Series is in the pipeline? Because that's essentially always the case.

And for what it is worth, I believe it has been mentioned by insiders that the new 3 and 5 Series will remain essentially the same size as the current models.

Yeah, considering the F10 already has a longer wheelbase than a 1977 Olds Delta 88 Royale, at this point one would hope like heck that BMW is done with the ridiculous growth in car proportions.

[hector]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

BMW is indeed starting production of the new G20 3 Series in 2018...

model year or calendar year 2018? thx.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by hector

model year or calendar year 2018? thx.

Per OP, F30 ends 10/18 so G20 starts 11/18 (that's November 2018).

Final F30 model year would be an MY2018 starting sometime in 2017, so inaugural G20 model year would be MY2019 (which is also noted in the OP).

[dgp]

When does MY17 end for F80/82? Is it March 2017 or June 2017?

[ynguldyn]

Mods, please note that M4 CS I spoke about is not the Spanish M4 with funny bits attached.

[dgp]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Mods, please note that M4 CS I spoke about is not the Spanish M4 with funny bits attached.

Will it be available here in the States?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Mods, please note that M4 CS I spoke about is not the Spanish M4 with funny bits attached.

Noted.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Per OP, F30 ends 10/18 so G20 starts 11/18 (that's November 2018).

Final F30 model year would be an MY2018 starting sometime in 2017, so inaugural G20 model year would be MY2019 (which is also noted in the OP).

Looks like BMW will probably mirror what they did with the F30, having a short 2019 model year as they did with the F30 2012 model year. Beginning G20 production in November would indicate new models making it to the U.S. in January or February 2019.

[copmagnet82]

I haven't checked this thread in a while, but are there any speculations as far as the new M3 (MY2020) being RWD or xDrive only? Also, will BMW kill 6MT with the new M3 or do you guys think they'll let it live?

Sorry, if it was covered, I just don't want to read 15+ pages. Thanks.

[maragulon]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

July 2016
* G32 is now a 6.

So there won't be a 6GC? There will be a 6GT instead, and 6GC will move to the 8 Series lineup?

[matbl]

Even if you don't type in all eu models. Anything on the G30 or G31 hybrid for eu?

[Sir Loin]

F39 X2
- sDrive28i
- xDrive28i
- xDrive M35i

I see F39 X2 will have xDrive M35i. will X1 have xDrive M35i as well? Thanks.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Sir Loin

I see F39 X2 will have xDrive M35i. will X1 have xDrive M35i as well? Thanks.

According to past suggestions by SCOTT, yes.

[ynguldyn]

Small, but fun update. See top post.

[Wozich]

G14 convertible and G15 coupe 8 series. Yes, they will come. Moving on.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Small, but fun update. See top post.

It's getting worst every time!

[Squddie]

So they will make no Z4 but have both 6-series and 8-series convertible. Hrm.

Not into heavy cars.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Squddie

So they will make no Z4 but have both 6-series and 8-series convertible. Hrm.

Not into heavy cars.

No, 6 series designation will be handed over to the 5GT replacement.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

No, 6 series designation will be handed over to the 5GT replacement.

In the absence of two-door 6 Series models, they may finally take the opportunity to separate the 3 and 4, moving the 4 considerably up market. This has been incorrectly predicted for two generations now (the E92/E93 were originally going to be called 4 Series too, but that was reversed and delayed until the F32/F33), but the move seems more compelling than ever if the 6 goes away. Or, if they don't go this route then there is going to be a massive gap between the 4 and 8. Of course, even moving the 4 up won't close that gap completely. And interestingly, Mercedes will be positioned just right to fill it with the upcoming C238/A238 two door E Class models.

And it would appear an M6 equivalent is gone too unless they will build a true M8 which seems a bit unlikely. By contrast, E63 coupe and convertible are coming to join the E63 sedan and touring.

[Laki021]

And what about 8 GC?

[matbl]

Originally Posted by dgp

When does MY17 end for F80/82? Is it March 2017 or June 2017?

31 Dec 2017 as all other years...
You should really stop this MY nonsense. Besides, doesn't BMW modify things once per quarter anyway? So there are 4 different versions within a model year anyway.
Production date is what counts.

[Sir Loin]

Originally Posted by Sir Loin

I see F39 X2 will have xDrive M35i. will X1 have xDrive M35i as well? Thanks.

Originally Posted by mkoesel

According to past suggestions by SCOTT, yes.

I wonder how the M35i engine would be mounted on the X1/X2 chassis...