[morten_m]

I'm sorry if this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if there's anyone selling adjustable camber plates for the E92 335i yet?

[S4to335]

A local shop here said he could only find one guy selling them....and the parts were $1800...Sooooooooooooooooooo...I decided against them for now.

[ksfrogman]

Something like this would be nice:

[S4to335]

You have a slight bit of adjustment in the stock set-up..but not much at all. The front holes are slightly slotted.

[Orb]

The only vendor that seems to have the for a E90/E92 is:

http://www.tcklineracing.com/monoball.htm

I would ask if they also come with a thrust bearing. I wouldn't get them if they don't. Non rubber top mounts make a noticeable difference in handling and in driver feedback but usually at the expanse of noise and harshness.

If might post a picture of my own spherical/thrust bearing camber plate design which uses a small amount of Cu based Superelastic alloy which turns vibration and noise into heat with no deflection. I’m still running some analysis on the design before I make them but have Pro/e models for pictures. I was board a few weeks ago so decided to design them.

Orb

Originally Posted by morten_m

I'm sorry if this has been talked about before, but does anyone know if there's anyone selling adjustable camber plates for the E92 335i yet?

[Hsv-Dan]

Originally Posted by Orb

The only vendor that seems to have the for a E90/E92 is:

http://www.tcklineracing.com/monoball.htm



Orb

I talked to Pete a few weeks back and he could not confirm they fit the e92. Be sure to check...

I use these on my e36 and like them.

[Orb]

I have the complete hat assembly and strut for an E92 and E90 (330i) here disassembled. The part numbers for all the components for an E92 are the same for an E90 330i which you can check at: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/.

For my own point on interest did you find the camber plates you used noisy and did the ball loosen even the slightest after 10,000 miles.

Originally Posted by Hsv-Dan

I talked to Pete a few weeks back and he could not confirm they fit the e92. Be sure to check...

I use these on my e36 and like them.

[sg335]

The 335 may be different than the 330. TC said that the E36 camber plates work with the 335, not the E46 plates. In addition, KMac sells three ranges of camber plates for the car: Street, Street/Track, and Track/Race. Look them up on Turner's site.

[morten_m]

KMACs are now ready for E90 and E92:

KMAC Front Camber/Caster Plates (Pair)

Stage I (Street/Semi Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...DUCT_ID=192416

Stage 2 (Street/Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=192416k2

Stage 3 (Full Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=192416k3

So I guess it'll be stage 2 for me then

[sg335]

I wonder how noisy these will be on the E90. The front bell housing is different than on the E36.

[ksfrogman]

Originally Posted by sg335

I wonder how noisy these will be on the E90. The front bell housing is different than on the E36.

Is this a characteristic you have noticed with most camber plates?

[Jonmartin]

If I'm not mistaken the Tein SS-P Coilover suspension comes with Pillowball upper mounts that are adjustable is that not that same thing?

[wj4]

Originally Posted by Jonmartin

If I'm not mistaken the Tein SS-P Coilover suspension comes with Pillowball upper mounts that are adjustable is that not that same thing?

But is there an SS-P system out for the car? There is the SS and SS-P. The SS-P comes with the mounts like you say, but other coilovers such as all series of KW's don't..so you have to reuse the OEM top hat.

[Jonmartin]

Originally Posted by wj4

But is there an SS-P system out for the car? There is the SS and SS-P. The SS-P comes with the mounts like you say, but other coilovers such as all series of KW's don't..so you have to reuse the OEM top hat.

Yes there is an SS-P infact I think it's the only available option from Tein I don't think there is a SS system. I ordered the Tein SS-P from HP Autowerkes in SB so we'll see how it goes.

[Crazy Bimmer]

Fawk it, let me be the first to ask.

What to camber plates do?

[Crazy Bimmer]

Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer

Fawk it, let me be the first to ask.

What to camber plates do?

Search noob! http://www.se-r.net/suspension/camber_plates.html

[wj4]

Originally Posted by Crazy Bimmer

Fawk it, let me be the first to ask.

What to camber plates do?

In a nutshell, it allows you to get more aggressive camber for better gripping.

[GreyGhost]

Why not get full race since it is the same price?

Originally Posted by morten_m

KMACs are now ready for E90 and E92:

KMAC Front Camber/Caster Plates (Pair)

Stage I (Street/Semi Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...DUCT_ID=192416

Stage 2 (Street/Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=192416k2

Stage 3 (Full Race):
http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html...CT_ID=192416k3

So I guess it'll be stage 2 for me then

[Jonmartin]

Originally Posted by GreyGhost

Why not get full race since it is the same price?

cause you'll need new tires very frequently

[Orb]

Camber plates allow for 1-2 degrees more camber adjustment than your stock system and some castor adjustment. They typically use a pillow ball and thrust bearing which completely removes all binding in the system and allow for constant camber as the strut works through the travel unlike the stock system. The end results are that a driver gets a higher precision handling car that has better feed back and is noticeable but with increased noise and harshness.

The KPAC design is good example of some very bad engineering. The plates will all raise the front of your car which they mention. One only has to search to find the stage 1 system has many horrific failures since they seem to be clueless how to support urethane (maybe they fixed it). The stage 2 system is a curl joke because it is not isolating anything that is important so it does nothing. The stage 3 uses a spherical bearing only which means that the bearing will undergo rotation and 3 degrees of misalignment which this bearing was not designed for so it is not going to be smooth and will develop slop within a year.

The best designed camber plates are from http://www.vorshlag.com/camberplates.php but they don’t address noise and harnesses.

It fairly difficult to design a camber plate for E90/E92 since the strut thread is a bit on the short side.

Orb

[sg335]

They are not making fixed plates for the E90's yet. There is very little market for camber plates upon release of a new car. E36 camber plates are still selling strong and E46 plates are at a peak. As used cars become more common place, so do modifications. This is one reason none of the tuners have put R&D money into the new model 3 series. They make more money selling the old stuff until the demand rises. Very unfortunate.

[Orb]

I heard Dinan had camber plates for an E90 but I’m not sure if anyone has seen them. They do the raise the front by ¼” which is not what you would expect from and engineering firm with any creditability as it is unnecessary.

I agree with sg335 as there is no market for camber plates. Most people will not put up with extra noise and harshness and not many are aware of the other benefits you get with them. I don’t think you could get more than 5 people who want them in this forum.

To do a proper camber plate for the E90/E92 you will need to replace the spring hat so it not going to be cheap either.

This is why I engineered my own camber plate and I didn’t have to compromise. I been down this road.....


Orb