[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by ttt_xxxxxxxxxx

The derivative code G85 was originally intended for the short M3 (a new entry-level M model). However, the code was later cancelled and replaced by the code G89. Of course, there will also be an AG model with the corresponding code.

And there will no longer be any logic behind the codes in the next G series for HP Cars. The codes will be assigned randomly, so there won’t be any need to follow a specific logic.

For the BEV models of the Neue Klasse, there is a logic behind the codes, and this will also exist again for all future ICE vehicles (after 2033) with completely new codes—provided that combustion engines actually remain.

I gotta say, what's the point of a short 3er/M3 if the G42/87 exists? The whole reason the 3er Compact ended was because it was replaced by the 1er and then 2er. That is unless the G85 was intended to be a successor to the G87... which would be a bit awkward.

[javapro]

ynguldyn or hb,

apparently some dealers are telling some of our iX forum members that 2026 was the last year for iX and it has reached the end of its life. Indeed, currently, there are almost no allocations left for 2026 iX in the US. Do you know if it's because of a changeover to 2027 model year and iX will have its EOP on 06/2028 as reported in this thread or has iX been discontinued abruptly?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by javapro

ynguldyn or hb,

apparently some dealers are telling some of our iX forum members that 2026 was the last year for iX and it has reached the end of its life. Indeed, currently, there are almost no allocations left for 2026 iX in the US. Do you know if it's because of a changeover to 2027 model year and iX will have its EOP on 06/2028 as reported in this thread or has iX been discontinued abruptly?

45 is questionable. The rest are not.

[Sudtirol]

ynguldyn Does a G58 model actually exist or will NA8 exclusively become the new LWB 3 series?

Not sure if you leave it out because of regional differences or it doesn't exist/the business case was canceled. Seems logical that they'd kill it. China is electrifying rapidly and NA8 is much more advanced to keep up with local competitors and tuned to Chinese tastes. If you still want a LWB ICE car, you have the LWB 2 Series and 5 Series. Plus they keep dropping price on ICE model in the market and are looking to simplify number of offerings overall.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Sudtirol

ynguldyn Does a G58 model actually exist

I'm seeing everything that I would expect at this stage.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by MugF

Does anybody know the release date of the i3? I think it will be in march but when exactly.

Originally Posted by javapro

March? The new i3 hasn’t even been revealed yet! According to the info in the main message in this thread, i3 SOP is July, 2026.

Originally Posted by BMW Life

BMW just yesterday communicated that the "design premiere" (=final official photos and specs revealed) of the new NA0 i3 will be on the 18th of March: https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...the-new-bmw-i3

This is almost record-early reveal compared to the SOP of July, usually the majority of official reveals for July SOP have been around May.

I think ynguldyn starts to have the specs as we speak. Personally I expect the range of i3 50 xDrive to be around 900 km.

The new BMW i3 50 xDrive | Info and Specs

[Mtaylor84]

ynguldyn does this mean the G81 end production in Feb now instead of predicted nov 27? If so when do we expect last order dates?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Mtaylor84

ynguldyn does this mean the G81 end production in Feb now instead of predicted nov 27? If so when do we expect last order dates?

That's what the top post already says. I don't answer dealership related questions.

[TurboSpecC]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

45 is questionable. The rest are not.

What does this mean? The rest are definitely dead or definitely alive?

[Sudtirol]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

What does this mean? The rest are definitely dead or definitely alive?

Per the leak on the BMW USA parts page it looks like the iX 45 will not get a 2027 model likely because the first iX5 will replace it. The other ones likely get phased out as the faster iX5s get released.

[TurboSpecC]

Originally Posted by Sudtirol

Per the leak on the BMW USA parts page it looks like the iX 45 will not get a 2027 model likely because the first iX5 will replace it. The other ones likely get phased out as the faster iX5s get released.

Do you have a link to this?

[Sudtirol]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

Do you have a link to this?

See screenshot

[RPM33]

Originally Posted by ttt_xxxxxxxxxx

The reason that a short M3 is even being considered is because there will no longer be a 2 Series. And since there will be no 2 Series anymore, the M GmbH also can no longer offer an M2 or offer a successor to an M2. And that is the whole story behind why they are thinking about building a short M3, and that would correspond to the successor of the M2, and that would be the new entry-level model for the M GmbH.

And what is currently being assessed, and the problem with that, is why the topic has also not yet been decided finally. If a successor M2 is built on the same platform as the 3 Series, then, of course, you cannot offer it as cheaply as the G87. And therefore, it is not yet 100% fixed that this model will actually be produced.

Just read this. Are you saying that there will not be a successor to the G87 M2?

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by RPM33

Just read this. Are you saying that there will not be a successor to the G87 M2?

If anything, he's saying the opposite. It has already been known there were no plans at all for another 2-door ICE after the 2 and 4 series ended production. F93 is saying that allegedly BMW is planning a SWB M3 as a replacement for the G87 (because there won't be another ICE 2 series). There are also rumors of discussions of making another 4 series based on the G50 after all but as of right now nothing is concrete and we'd be unlikely to see results of this by the end of the decade.

[TurboSpecC]

May not mean anything as this was probably a global change, but the 2026 iX is still in the refreshed BMWUSA web configurator that seems to have been rolled out in the past couple of days.

[javapro]

Originally Posted by TurboSpecC

May not mean anything as this was probably a global change, but the 2026 iX is still in the refreshed BMWUSA web configurator that seems to have been rolled out in the past couple of days.

Yes, it’s in the configurator but there are no 2026 allocations left in the US and some existing 2026 production orders which had an assigned production week are being flipped to status 105 (no production week). So, either iX is being discontinued or BMW is preparing to switch to 2027 MY. Although it seems kind of early for the switchover as 2027 was expected to start production in June.

[Sudtirol]

@ynguldyn any word on the i3 weight yet?

[Turbanator]

Not official but I'd imagine you can take the delta between the G01 X3 and the G20 3er and subtract that weight from the iX3 to find something close to an answer.

[mbanck]

Any indication that BMW would switch NCAR BEV models to a 800V architecture at some point, or is that not something you can see? Or are they just going to sit tight till the i5 and i7 are on NCAR?

Edit: Oh, @Erebor claimed the iX5 would get 800V (but not i5/i7 LCI) in https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...postcount=2438

[adski]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Any indication that BMW would switch NCAR BEV models to a 800V architecture at some point, or is that not something you can see? Or are they just going to sit tight till the i5 and i7 are on NCAR?

Edit: Oh, @Erebor claimed the iX5 would get 800V (but not i5/i7 LCI) in https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32554514&postcount=2438

I guess we would see an efficiency improvement on current 400v's system making the difference with 800v not so big (currently 20% more energy density and reduced energy losses by 40% )

[LuisBoston]

BMW Blog

Next BMW i5 Could Ditch the Shared Platform and Go Its Own Electric Way

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

BMW Blog

Next BMW i5 Could Ditch the Shared Platform and Go Its Own Electric Way

Cross-pollination.