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04-14-2010, 01:42 PM | #354 |
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E92Fan: do you have the Setrab core product code? was it basically plug and play on the OEM oil lines? Thanks
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04-14-2010, 02:51 PM | #355 | |
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The wheel-well cooler itself is MUCH bigger than the OEM BMW version - it's a 25 row unit, 13 inches wide. The cooler itself isn't that much money - about 130 Euros for the STD version and 200 Euros for the competition version that I'm using. I don't know offhand the product code for each one - I can find out tomorrow when I'm back with the paperwork...
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04-14-2010, 03:21 PM | #357 |
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04-14-2010, 03:44 PM | #358 | |
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04-14-2010, 03:48 PM | #359 | |
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Congrats on your new beast ! Did you do all that hardcore ring and autobahn testing with your previous flash tune or the proceede ? I have an auto tranny myself and am corcerned about it's durability. Fwiw I am in line for RB turbos and will tune it thru a custom jb3 map. Thanks and drive safe.
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04-14-2010, 03:49 PM | #360 |
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Yes, you must monitor the oil temps. Although you should also monitor the coolant temp too! With the twin-Setrab setup on my car, I sat at a constant 160mph on the autobahn and the temperature never went above 115 degrees C. At 180mph I registered 120 degrees but no more. Constant lapping of the 'Ring saw 130 degrees maximum. For me, that's an absolutely perfect oil cooling setup
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04-14-2010, 03:52 PM | #361 | |
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Enrita, so u have the stock OC and added the AR secondary OC ? Did the new AR unit drop your oil temps alot ? I have the VK OC upgrade but may add the AR OC later as a second unit. Thanks
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04-14-2010, 03:53 PM | #362 | |
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The auto transmission has held up perfectly on my car. No issues at all, and that's with a huge amount of very hardcore 'Ring driving as other members will testify to. It's worth doing a gearbox oil change though, just to enhance the life of the 'box. I'm also currently working on fabricating a proper metal sump pan with cooling fins to replace the standard plastic sump tray on the gearbox. That'll take a while, perhaps another month, but it'll definitely be worth it. I think you'll have great results with the RB solution - will be interesting to see how the JB3 works with it as I have no direct experience of that product. I'm a relative Procede newbie as well for that matter!
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04-14-2010, 03:57 PM | #363 | |
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The Setrab core works MUCH better than the Durale core, and retains full structural rigidity even when the mounting tabs are cut off. The Derale has an issue in that when the mounting tabs are cut off, as they are for the VK installation, the rigidity of the core itself can be compromised and might lead to a core split. I should know - this has happened TWICE to me already, once on a testing day at Prodrive when I was doing 150mph The spin out due to the oil on the front tyre was mental The AR secondary unit is a Setrab core and works very well to maintain cool temps. I highly recommend it if you're going to up the power of your car. To give you an example, with just a single Setrab core I hit oil temps of 140 degrees when hot lapping around the 'Ring. Now with the additional AR cooler, and with the car producing much more power, I only hit temps of 130... can't give a better real world recommendation than that.
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04-14-2010, 04:23 PM | #364 |
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my oil temps dropped maybe 5-10 C. i guess the biggest difference is the rate the temperature increases (slower) and decreases (much faster) . Basically you hold a much steadier and controlled oil temp.
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04-14-2010, 04:37 PM | #365 |
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My car doesn't even have the stock OC. So far with temps getting up to the 70's (F) my oil temps aren't any higher than they were before. But i'm also not driving around the nuerburgring
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04-14-2010, 04:45 PM | #366 |
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In my opinion an upgraded Radiator for the water temps is really needed. i will soon get a Beta version from a renowned company. Going to be very interesting and definetely help keep the turbos on the cool side.
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04-14-2010, 05:00 PM | #367 |
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I'm working on exactly the same thing! Should have the radiator for testing on Monday
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04-15-2010, 01:23 AM | #368 | |
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04-15-2010, 01:26 AM | #369 |
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Great writeup Tony
I just joined the next groupbayfor the helix Fmic and then planning on a set of downpipes and so I should be fat and happy with my Bmw no more engine modifications but reading through your thread got me all excited on modifing my vastgaterattelling turboīs Could you please give us I bid more insight(driving not technical) on the difference between stage 1 and 2. Stage 2 is almost twice the price of stage 1 money well sent ?? I realy hate the way our standart turbos tapper off at high rpm, how much improvement do they offer, and how much faster does stage 1 spool up at low rpm than stage 2? On the subject of your OCīs is It the same core(size) setrab and Ar/Setrab? |
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04-15-2010, 07:21 AM | #370 |
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Yes, exceptionally easy. I can't remember the exact AN fitting of the VK lines however, but the adapter is an off-the-shelf part. Your local Mocal dealer, or Raeder Motorsports, should be able to source this easily
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04-15-2010, 07:53 AM | #371 | |
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Really looking forward to see the impact of all the mods and to be able to go flat out without having to worry about 140 degrees or more oiltemps. |
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04-15-2010, 11:28 AM | #373 | |
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let me say for all us n54 guys out there that it is really incredible how much you pushed that 335 of yours !! i know you spent mucho $$$$. we are all salivating my guess is that (with no rob beck hick ups), i will the the RB turbos installed in my car within 6 weeks or so. i do not think you are a 1/4 mile guy and you probably do not have before and after dynos of your stage 2 turbo setup but: roughly speaking do you know how much whp you added ? ... or can you subjectively say that you got about 20% more power across the board ?? i will probably mod and push my motor as much as you - but the suspension work you did is incredible. but due to low clearance issues here in south america - i cannot and will not do any suspension work on my daily driven 335. lastly: thanks for your info re my VK OC. if you can get me a part number for a better (interchangeable) serab core i will definitely change out the VK OC core. ... and when my larger turbos are in i will probably add the AR OC as a second OC unit ! i cannot wait for all this. cheers and have fun you dog ! Last edited by midlife; 04-15-2010 at 11:34 AM.. |
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04-15-2010, 11:37 AM | #374 | |
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and JP: do not push your luck man ! you have bigger turbos and not even the stock OC
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