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01-07-2018, 02:48 PM | #23 | |
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I see the link I posted for that Toyota version was a 7 groove pulley and not a 6. da_trem posted a 6 grove Litens item, but looking on Litens site for that part number shows a lower lifespan (less than half) than the one I linked. Curious if that is due to the particular engine it's used on or something else within the specific design of that item? Anyone know if a more simplified clutched only pulley has a longer lifespan than a decoupled version on a given application? The simpler clutched pulley still showed substantial benefit over the solid pulley on that video, and that was of course at full alternator load which would be a worst case situation.
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01-07-2018, 03:23 PM | #24 |
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Guys, check out that one. That might be good.
(I removed my stock pulley and took measurments) From litens; 2010 FORD C-MAX - 1.6 TDCi--- Supplier Part Number: 920007 For measurments purpose (but in OAP version) http://www.zm.com.br/en/catalogo/produto/1-9501206
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01-07-2018, 03:34 PM | #25 |
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Perhaps I can diffuse the stalemate that you speak of Tuscon. I think people would like an option to "upgrade" to an OAD.
If you want money we can pay you something per kit sold with an OAD. If you want recognition we could have a blurb about the on our website along with the part for sale. |
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01-07-2018, 04:30 PM | #26 |
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I would certainly be hesitant to reference “validate” unless you are prepared to do it properly with a well defined protocol, sample size and aging considerations. Might take you a bit more than your car, one pulley and 90 days. Also, I understand that you may intend to seem significant with your discoveries and effort you had inserted into the “right” pulley. But this group had been built on sharing and helping each other. For example xHP transmission tune would not have been made possible without a significant community effort. What we know about deletes today would not be possible without early adopters sharing their ideas, succeses and failures. Without consideration for whom may try to capitalize and commercialize the idea. And even better, solutions are available for the community.
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01-07-2018, 04:58 PM | #27 | |
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Tucson335d, I was disappointed by your #35 post. Many of us here have sacrificed MUCH more time, energy, and money than you have on this pulley effort (which looks very promising, and full Kudos to you for that), and freely shared with the community. All of us, working together, have helped move this platform forward to where it is today. I hope you reconsider.
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01-07-2018, 06:40 PM | #28 | |
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01-07-2018, 07:15 PM | #29 | |
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Pay for your development materials Machining costs for spacers Name this the "Tuscon pulley mod" Your extensive time involved is invaluable and we couldn't come close to compensating you fairly for that without passing the cost to the community. A hobbyist does this stuff in their spare time because they like it and want to further their vehicle performance. I like doing this stuff so much I quit my jobs and I have to make some money to support my family and all those that I employ. Profits are typically made by leveraging large sums of money to get discounts from manufacturers allowing us to sell products at a competitive price while earning a profit. Alternatively, if you don't like this proposal, I'm sure one of the other brilliant members of this forum will come up with their own OAD solution. |
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01-08-2018, 07:00 AM | #30 |
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Would you like a list? Although I'm pretty sure by now that even the really long list of contributors and contributions that have directly benefited you will not change your position.
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01-08-2018, 09:09 AM | #31 |
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The melodrama continues! Can see what Andrew was saying about approach, geeze man, less is more. Don't think you will see anyone around here blowing a motor and putting a new one in next weekend, we are after all on a forum of generation old diesels.
The threads for getting the fluidampr started back in April, 2016! If you are really going to continue like this the community would be better off finding an alternative. Calling out TDI, of all poeple probably wasn't the best thing to do as his contributions to this place have been invaluable . Many people have time invested, and if you are going to act ignorant about it to be unnecessarily dramatic, then take the solution you wont share specifics on elsewhere. |
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01-08-2018, 09:14 AM | #32 |
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I'll be trying out that OAD pulley shortly. Measurements wise it fits. Its made for Volvo and ford diesel motors. But i could only source it from the UK..
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01-08-2018, 12:10 PM | #33 |
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Thanks for helping. And for sharing a part number :-)
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01-08-2018, 12:32 PM | #34 |
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01-08-2018, 04:25 PM | #36 | ||
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Indeed, he just filed a PayPal dispute against us after writing that he was happy with the setup.
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01-08-2018, 04:33 PM | #38 | |
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01-08-2018, 04:58 PM | #39 | |
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Andrew, I thought you went WAY out of your way to work with Tucson335d and make him feel included and significant by the offers you made to him in this thread ... For that I Knight you as "poster boy, their golden child, their hero" :-)
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Here goes; I've watched this unfold from the first rumors about fluidampr, just as I have watched the development of xHP, or countless others. I fully acknowledge that all the modifications in my car have been made possible by not just the hard work, but the selflessness of others. whether or not my money made it directly to them or not, I am in their debt.
As for fluidampr, I took the time as well to research just how a damper should operate, and from an engineering level, what it is doing. My conclusion, backed up by extensive data provided from Andrew and Fluidampr is that it performs exactly as designed regarding crank harmonics, at the cost of reduced effectiveness for audible idle noise/effects. Given the work by Andrew, once my clutched pulley arrives, I will install it and be happy, and be thankful for the hard work put in by everyone involved. Because of all the data and communication, I'm confident this is a solid solution. I have my engineering degree so facts, data, and legitimate research hold far more value for me than self-reported results that lack any sort of validity. On the other note, and completely separate from any technical details of various solutions, is just the impression I get from various members of this community, based solely from interactions on the internet. Based on that alone there are certain vendors I avoid, and others I trust. We paint a portrait of ourselves by every single word said in a public forum such as this. After all this it confirms for me that Andrew is committed to doing the right thing for his customers, while Tucson335d is more concerned about his own car, and making a lot of noise while doing nothing for the community. This post doesn't contribute much to the discussion, but I just wanted to put my 2 cents in after months of sitting on the sidelines.
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01-08-2018, 05:49 PM | #43 |
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On a positive note, spacers are going to arrive tomorrow and we will ship pulleys to everybody that has not ordered tools. Fluidampr needs a few more days to make the 24mm pass-through sockets for me
https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrac...s=795408493580 I also made the X5 diy video today for the Fluidampr install and the alternator |
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I guess I don't understand your position... did you seriously want money for fitting an off the shelf pulley and your "time"? Seriously? Quote:
Have you had a good experience with a seller? You badmouthed the exhaust guy and the exhaust was fine. You're now backmouthing fluidamper and Andrew even though the product fit and does what it was designed to do. Have you had any good experience with vendors? From reading and re-reading your posts, it sure seems like you have a twisted sense of entitlement. It's a $500 aftermarket/performance part, it'll change the car and likely introduce NVH like bushings, driveshafts, lightweight flywheels etc. If you wanted an OE piece, you should've purchased a direct OE replacement, which are much cheaper. |
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