[dannyhavok]

Originally Posted by Longdoggy

A 2016 civic is still pretty lame. I won't be caught dead driving a Honda.

I've got a distant relative who wore this shirt to his wedding (he's a Harley guy and former hells angels) that said; "I'd rather my sister in a whore house than my brother on a Honda". Yea, Honda sucks.

Honda makes great bikes though.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Longdoggy

A 2016 civic is still pretty lame. I won't be caught dead driving a Honda.

I've got a distant relative who wore this shirt to his wedding (he's a Harley guy and former hells angels) that said; "I'd rather my sister in a whore house than my brother on a Honda". Yea, Honda sucks.

Please tell me you have a picture of that.

[dannyhavok]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Please tell me you have a picture of that.

[krhodes1]

[QUOTE=Torgus;20124305]
Anyone who has not owned both really don't know what they are talking about as they are signifigantly biased imo. Especially those with the NA engine as it seems impossible for them to come to understand the difference between the cars. Saying they are basically the same is just asanine.

The best analogy I can think of is the NA engine is like a 4 banger Mustang and the FI engine is like the v8. Both look the same on the outside but one can be made significantly faster.

It should be easy enough to find a local person to let you test drive their tuned 335i. Drive a tuned 335 and then a tuned 328 and make the decision what power plant you want to be stuck with.

Edit: How many 335i owners do you see post that they should have gotten a 328?
QUOTE]

I own both. A 2011 328i wagon and a 2016 M235i. Both 6spd/RWD. The 328i is not slow in any way, it just isn't as fast. Grow up. The biggest difference is that in the 328i you have to use all the revs, while in the M235i it doesn't really matter. Either car will get your license shredded in a nanosecond.

In an ideal world, I would have been perfectly happy with an M-Sport 228i, but I could not get one equipped the way I wanted without a sunroof, and with the sunroof I don't fit in the car. So slick-topped M235i it was.

[GMe90]

Originally Posted by mynycbimmer

LMAO

You're all driving cars at least 5 years old, none of which are worth more than a new Civic. Losers.

What in the world makes you think that because we are driving "cars that are at least five years old," that means that all we can afford are cheap cars. Trust me, buddy, I can probably afford a much better car than you can. I drive the the e90 series because I genuinely love the car, much more so than the f30, and I am sure that's the case with most of the folks on here.

[BSM n54iS]

Originally Posted by Torgus

335, depending on the year, has a massive performance difference when tuned + simple inexpensive mods. Double the hp & tq. Also, better brakes.

As someone who has 6 years combined experience with the FI engine and just under 3 with the NA engine in my wagon I can say without a doubt the 335i is the way to go. Hands down end of discussion. The wagon is a slow boring car compared to 335s. The N54 powered cars put a smile on my face every time i drive them. The e90 is an awesome sleeper with the n54. The bmw NA engines found in the e9x chassis are great for women, children learning to drive, and grand parents. You don't want granny with 450 ft lbs of tq you want her in a slow, low power output, small displacement NA engine same as your child who needs to learn how to drive safely. You don't give them a fun car to drive on purpose unless you want them dead. Fun is a big point, I've never had fun driving the wagon. It's got no balls hence why it is appropriate who drives such an underpowered car.

Anyone who has not owned both really don't know what they are talking about as they are signifigantly biased imo. Especially those with the NA engine as it seems impossible for them to come to understand the difference between the cars. Saying they are basically the same is just asanine.

The best analogy I can think of is the NA engine is like a 4 banger Mustang and the FI engine is like the v8. Both look the same on the outside but one can be made significantly faster.

It should be easy enough to find a local person to let you test drive their tuned 335i. Drive a tuned 335 and then a tuned 328 and make the decision what power plant you want to be stuck with.

Edit: How many 335i owners do you see post that they should have gotten a 328?

Edit #2: Maintenance his been minimal on all the cars. I seriously don't know what everyone complains about. Same with the locals I know, minimal amount spent on maintenance. I also turn my own wrenches. If you can't follow a DIY and you don't like getting corn holed by $100/ hour mechanics than a used out of waranty bmw, let alone a 335i, is not for you.

Edit #3:
This thread is 2 years old for everybody's information....is there ANY point to arguing about all this stupid shit?

Drive your e9x and enjoy! /thread.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Black n54is

Edit #3:
This thread is 2 years old for everybody's information....is there ANY point to arguing about all this stupid shit?

Drive your e9x and enjoy! /thread.

Do you even boost bro?

[sea6speed]

Originally Posted by GMe90

What in the world makes you think that because we are driving "cars that are at least five years old," that means that all we can afford are cheap cars. Trust me, buddy, I can probably afford a much better car than you can. I drive the the e90 series because I genuinely love the car, much more so than the f30, and I am sure that's the case with most of the folks on here.

A lot of people are obsessed with buying the most expensive car they can afford. People splitting hairs over E90's and F30's affordability wise are missing the boat. Neither is a car driven by the super rich money is no object crowd. They're both good cars, I personally prefer an E90. Just because someone "could" pay cash for a new F30 doesn't mean they have to, especially when the E90 is such a good car to drive.

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

As a friend and I were walking to a bar, we saw a Porsche meet. My friend started joking about how it would be funny if a 911 owner would make fun of a Boxster owner for driving an entry level car, and how silly of a thing that would be.

I told him about the 328i vs. 335i threads all over E90 post. He died laughing (RIP).

Humans: Red vs. Blue. It's what we do.

Notice how the M3 owners never come in with these arguments?

[Dan Bilzerian]

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Notice how the M3 owners never come in with these arguments?

I've wanted to point this out for awhile now! Way to beat me to it

[stanlalee]

Originally Posted by Welcome to NBA Jam

Notice how the M3 owners never come in with these arguments?

e90 M3 vs e90 335i is an even more common (and relevant) argument than 335 vs 328 ever was.

These arguments are not uncommon on other platforms when two engines are offered either close in factory output: VR6 vs 1.8T GTI (back in the day) or when a lower model has the potential to perform or outperform a higher model: Turbo Genesis vs V6, R32 vs GTI. These are valid arguments as the lower models often have the potential to be faster for the same money of cheaper. 328 vs 335i have neither of these variables and is really silly to argue.

[Longdoggy]

I think it all comes down to you and your preference. Your car is an extension and expression of who you are and needs to fit your driving type.
Some people are 328 people, some 335, others don't want BMW at all and would take an Audi any day; or vice a Versa with all other combinations of preferences.

I'll second many viewpoints on here about the driving characteristics of the E90 vs F30. I recently had a 2016 335 GT as a loaner when I was in for oil change and 60k checkup and was not really pleased with the GT. It had the M Sport package and was nicely packaged with shift paddles but even in sport plus I never felt as connected to the road as I do in my E90. I also don't have M or Sports package; even un-tuned my car felt sportier; and when I load my Cobb maps in its a whole other level.

BMW needs to make some changes in the next version of the 3 series in my opinion. It did not feel like a drivers car as you would expect.

I hate to say it; but my next car once my E90 has reached its lifespan for me might be an S6.

[Mike.]

Originally Posted by justpete

Not so! For example mine is worth even less. But it's unfair to sling invective, don't you think? After all, mine cost several times what yours did.

Pete is in the hole like 100k...

literally 100k

[justpete]

Originally Posted by Mike.

Pete is in the hole like 100k...

literally 100k

haha and not even including the cost of the car new...

[Needbmwpartzz]

I love my 328(aside from too many stupid problems).
Actually picked it over the 335 because it's much much more engaging to drive as a commuter car and still a blast on the highway.
Also not as many upkeep dollars to keep it going.
So 328>335 IMO.

[Rolyreyes86]

well i own a 2011 bmw 328i and i have no complaints so far and i have done a few mods and to be honest i love it, this year im doing some performance mods and i dont want to reach 300 or 400hp anyways i cant race on the streets lol, but here are some picts of how it looks so far.

[MTK24]

What headlights are those?

[natedog7700]

Originally Posted by thomas88162

Will 255 hp suit you or do you need 300? That is the question you need to answer yourself.

Rated at 300.... but more like 330hp AND 330ft lbs lol

[akf30]

Originally Posted by Rolyreyes86

well i own a 2011 bmw 328i and i have no complaints so far and i have done a few mods and to be honest i love it, this year im doing some performance mods and i dont want to reach 300 or 400hp anyways i cant race on the streets lol, but here are some picts of how it looks so far.

Isn't it a little "ricey "to have a M3 hood on a 328i, just curious, I wanted to do the same with mine but don't want to be looked at as "that guy" who drives a 328i with m3 parts. Not trying to be a dick but see what people say. I love the m3 hood but again feel like I'm a wannabe if I get it on my 328i

Other than that I love how your car looks.

[jeddo45]

Originally Posted by e90bs

Isn't it a little "ricey "to have a M3 hood on a 328i, just curious, I wanted to do the same with mine but don't want to be looked at as "that guy" who drives a 328i with m3 parts. Not trying to be a dick but see what people say. I love the m3 hood but again feel like I'm a wannabe if I get it on my 328i

Other than that I love how your car looks.

Car looks good. Honestly, if I had a 328i, I'd spend the money on the looks of the car, not the performance. That's a nice 328i.

[akf30]

Originally Posted by jeddo45

Car looks good. Honestly, if I had a 328i, I'd spend the money on the looks of the car, not the performance. That's a nice 328i.

I have the same mentality, keep up with maintenance and the looks of the car. I want to see what people think.

[jeddo45]

Originally Posted by e90bs

I have the same mentality, keep up with maintenance and the looks of the car. I want to see what people think.

Here's my opinion:

The money spent on performance just isn't worth it. It's a good amount of money for very little HP gains. Looks however make the car more enjoyable all around. It doesn't matter whether the car is fast or not, people will appreciate the looks of it.

Now if you have a platform to modify for performance gains (or 335i) then that's a totally different story.