[hassmaschine]

Originally Posted by InControl

Not sure where you getting your facts, maybe overwhelmed with coding? I drive a car thats more aluminum than plastic and rubber combined ��

uhh. really? most of the front of the car is plastic (core support, fenders, bumper, headlights, grille, fender liners, undertray). A good amount of the engine is plastic (valve cover, oil pan, intake, pulleys, cooling system, etc). probably 90% of the interior is plastic. The trunk floor is plastic. I could go on and on - are you really trying to argue there's not a lot of plastic on an E9x?

You're being ridiculous - seriously. it's an airbox. They are made out of plastic and last 30-40 years. If you're unlucky and it's cracked, so what? You could buy 4-5 used ones for the cost of one new one. $500 is not "a couple bucks more". A used airbox isn't going to cause damage or issues to your car. I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

[InControl]

Originally Posted by hassmaschine

uhh. really? most of the front of the car is plastic (core support, fenders, bumper, headlights, grille, fender liners, undertray). A good amount of the engine is plastic (valve cover, oil pan, intake, pulleys, cooling system, etc). probably 90% of the interior is plastic. The trunk floor is plastic. I could go on and on - are you really trying to argue there's not a lot of plastic on an E9x?

You're being ridiculous - seriously. it's an airbox. They are made out of plastic and last 30-40 years. If you're unlucky and it's cracked, so what? You could buy 4-5 used ones for the cost of one new one. $500 is not "a couple bucks more". A used airbox isn't going to cause damage or issues to your car. I think you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.

Who is arguing pal? What I initially said is that a 10 y.o. box would not go into my car. I'd find a newer one for $150-200. Your and my opinion may differ in part cause you drive an older car and maybe are less anal about what goes in it. On the other side plastic vs aluminum, weight to ratio is self explanatory I hope.

[Taskmaster]

WHO CARES?! Guys, it's a waste of money, not matter HOW you slice it.

No matter the part, no matter the cost is a waste of money- these cars are depreciating rapidly, they are literally inferior to almost every car being produced today. We are bickering over Xwhp, plastics, and whatever dumb shit that doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things.

[justpete]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

WHO CARES?! Guys, it's a waste of money, not matter HOW you slice it.

No matter the part, no matter the cost is a waste of money- these cars are depreciating rapidly, they are literally inferior to almost every car being produced today. We are bickering over Xwhp, plastics, and whatever dumb shit that doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things.

dingdingdingding We have a winner!!

[InControl]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

WHO CARES?! Guys, it's a waste of money, not matter HOW you slice it.

No matter the part, no matter the cost is a waste of money- these cars are depreciating rapidly, they are literally inferior to almost every car being produced today. We are bickering over Xwhp, plastics, and whatever dumb shit that doesn't even matter in the grand scheme of things.

Agree. Few billion years the sun will literally digest our puny planet...
Or then there was this hot potato in charge that might accelerate things.
Stay tuned.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by InControl

Agree. Few billion years the sun will literally digest our puny planet...
Or then there was this hot potato in charge that might accelerate things.
Stay tuned.

President Potato. I like that.

[arciga18]

I went the used route too. Spent 89 dollars shipped from Germany for the Euro filter box. I just need the bottom half because I already bought the Euro Performance Intake.

If I get the part and I don't like it. Meh. I'll toss it and just skip going out to dinner one night to balance out the books.

Maybe I got a great deal or maybe Ill just have buy from ECS @ $530. I'll know in a week or so.

For me, its about the hunt and the joy to swap out "accessories".

[dancing__narwhal]

Originally Posted by arciga18

I went the used route too. Spent 89 dollars shipped from Germany for the Euro filter box. I just need the bottom half because I already bought the Euro Performance Intake.

If I get the part and I don't like it. Meh. I'll toss it and just skip going out to dinner one night to balance out the books.

Maybe I got a great deal or maybe Ill just have buy from ECS @ $530. I'll know in a week or so.

For me, its about the hunt and the joy to swap out "accessories".

Where did you find it for so cheap?

[arciga18]

Originally Posted by dgaultiere

Where did you find it for so cheap?

I basically read through most of the similar threads and gathered the following info.

-Ansauggeräuschdämpfer is a German search term for eBay.de . You kinda go at it and hope you get lucky with additional search terms.
-130i- Euro car has the filter box you need. Also, you can search for intake muffler.
-A lot of Euro 3er with the N5x* engine variant had this filter box.

-I searched ebay Spain, UK, Australia. I even contacted BMW dealer in the UK (sponsor here), but it was more expensive than ECS Tuning. Some listings clearly said will not ship to the USA. Heck, there was a sketchy company in Latvia that would sell it to me at retail if I gave them my social security number. LOLOLOLOL.

So what I ended up doing was finding a listing for a 325 (wagon) filter box in Germany but on the Ebay Spain site that listed the VIN. The part is obviously used and from a a dismantler in Germany. I dropped the Euro VIN in realoem.com and checked that it showed 13717555287. Also, based on the pictures it looked like the right part and included the round cone filter (I am not going to use. I will buy a new one).

I also pulled up my VIN on realoem.com and studied the two drawings side by side and realized that every other "accessory" on the filter box is the same as the US version. I'm talking clamps, elbows, pipes, etc. We all know the MAF sensor is different, and you should use the one you have.

The DHL paket International parcel box shipped on Friday and is now here in Chicagoland somewhere per dhal tracking. It might get delivered Tuesday. I have no idea if DHL will deliver or transfer USPS.


I found the Euro BMW performance intake from Australia for ~$540 USD shipped. This I just got REAL lucky.


Why did I do all this? Was it for the HP gains? Nope. Its still a 328 daily driver. I did it for fun to pretend to be a hardcore enthusiast. Swapping out the filter will be a lot easier.

I'm already working on getting everything I need for he 3-stage manifold conversion.

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by arciga18

I basically read through most of the similar threads and gathered the following info.

-Ansauggeräuschdämpfer is a German search term for eBay.de . You kinda go at it and hope you get lucky with additional search terms.
-130i- Euro car has the filter box you need. Also, you can search for intake muffler.
-A lot of Euro 3er with the N5x* engine variant had this filter box.

-I searched ebay Spain, UK, Australia. I even contacted BMW dealer in the UK (sponsor here), but it was more expensive than ECS Tuning. Some listings clearly said will not ship to the USA. Heck, there was a sketchy company in Latvia that would sell it to me at retail if I gave them my social security number. LOLOLOLOL.

So what I ended up doing was finding a listing for a 325 (wagon) filter box in Germany but on the Ebay Spain site that listed the VIN. The part is obviously used and from a a dismantler in Germany. I dropped the Euro VIN in realoem.com and checked that it showed 13717555287. Also, based on the pictures it looked like the right part and included the round cone filter (I am not going to use. I will buy a new one).

I also pulled up my VIN on realoem.com and studied the two drawings side by side and realized that every other "accessory" on the filter box is the same as the US version. I'm talking clamps, elbows, pipes, etc. We all know the MAF sensor is different, and you should use the one you have.

The DHL paket International parcel box shipped on Friday and is now here in Chicagoland somewhere per dhal tracking. It might get delivered Tuesday. I have no idea if DHL will deliver or transfer USPS.


I found the Euro BMW performance intake from Australia for ~$540 USD shipped. This I just got REAL lucky.


Why did I do all this? Was it for the HP gains? Nope. Its still a 328 daily driver. I did it for fun to pretend to be a hardcore enthusiast. Swapping out the filter will be a lot easier.

I'm already working on getting everything I need for he 3-stage manifold conversion.

Ok, I get it , most of us are looking for more performance from our cars but has anyone logged the difference in air flow or manifold pressure these mods provide? Real quantifiable data would be great.

Come on, TestO is free and most if have a DCAN cable.

I've logged my pressures, with a stock intake see I see very little manifold pressure drop. I have a Z4 so maybe the three series is different, maybe.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by rjahl

Ok, I get it , most of us are looking for more performance from our cars but has anyone logged the difference in air flow or manifold pressure these mods provide? Real quantifiable data would be great.

Come on, TestO is free and most if have a DCAN cable.

I've logged my pressures, with a stock intake see I see very little manifold pressure drop. I have a Z4 so maybe the three series is different, maybe.

Do you have the 3 stage intake manifold?

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

Do you have the 3 stage intake manifold?

Yes, installed a long Time ago.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by rjahl

Yes, installed a long Time ago.

You removed the stock limiter and DISA set point, is it pulling vacuum after 6500 to 7000rpm?

[F22_Raptor]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

WHO CARES?! Guys, it's a waste of money, not matter HOW you slice it.

they are literally inferior to almost every car being produced today..

Nope, the euro intake improves the look of the engine bay drastically.
The euro intake gives you the ability to use it without the cover for more induction noise and some warm air. The price of a used one is well worth it as a bolt on. Brand new? not so much.

I still think the e9x is better than 90% than any car produced today imo.
but in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn't mean shit lol.

[tom.gnade]

Originally Posted by arciga18

Bumping this Old thread. Did you ever use Partacus.

I was about to pull the trigger but they never replied to my e-mail then I found some questionable reviews online and stopped trying.

Then I went back to considering them.

They had a great sale for a while then it bumped way up, so I picked one up used on the forum at a very good price.

[Zajac1]

Originally Posted by F22_Raptor

Nope, the euro intake improves the look of the engine bay drastically.
The euro intake gives you the ability to use it without the cover for more induction noise and some warm air. The price of a used one is well worth it as a bolt on. Brand new? not so much.

I still think the e9x is better than 90% than any car produced today imo.
but in the grand scheme of things my opinion doesn't mean shit lol.

Are you using euro box without top cover ?

[F22_Raptor]

Originally Posted by Zajac1

Are you using euro box without top cover ?

No .... but I plan to.

[Zajac1]

Originally Posted by F22_Raptor

No .... but I plan to.

Waiting for reviews

[anjuna]

i have one of these suction mufflers in post now!

[rjahl]

Originally Posted by TheAxiom

You removed the stock limiter and DISA set point, is it pulling vacuum after 6500 to 7000rpm?

Sorry it took so long, The following is a log showing the intake manifold vacuum with a completely stock N52 + tune and 3 stage manifold. All soft limiters are removed in this tune.

The data points seem to jump a fair bit with this sensor. Just need to focus on the trend rather than any individual data point.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by rjahl

Sorry it took so long, The following is a log showing the intake manifold vacuum with a completely stock N52 + tune and 3 stage manifold. All soft limiters are removed in this tune.

The data points seem to jump a fair bit with this sensor. Just need to focus on the trend rather than any individual data point.

I see...it's literally losing vacuum, which means that the intake isn't a huge restriction (as you pointed out to me) Thank you!

[hassmaschine]

Not too bad though - about 5% loss. That would theoretically translate into ~10hp if you could eliminate it entirely, but that's easier said than done..