Bimmer Performance Center N52 On The Dyno

Phil@BPC · 04-26-2018, 07:55 AM

This 328i automatic arrived for a stage 1 tune. This E90 is bone stock other than our own BPC Stage 1 tune.

Check out our tunes and other products on our webstore: https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...i-n51-n52-tune

Taskmaster · 04-26-2018, 08:15 AM

I love these threads. Any chance you guys compare an off the shelf vs the dyno tune?

Bob@BPC · 04-26-2018, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Taskmaster

I love these threads. Any chance you guys compare an off the shelf vs the dyno tune?

For this customer, we used an off the self tune since it was bone stock and we know its going to make great power

Taskmaster · 04-26-2018, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

For this customer, we used an off the self tune since it was bone stock and we know its going to make great power

Whoa - 13whp for an OTS tune is awesome. Still trying to nail down scheduling for my dyno tune!

6ixSpd · 04-26-2018, 09:33 AM

Solid gains!!

atmosphericM · 04-26-2018, 10:24 AM

14 whp / 14 wtq
20 crank hp gain to about 250 crank hp (at least if BMW was publishing it)
7% gains

$650

Cool. Pricey, but hey, it's a BMW

All in all not a bad dollar per hp gain IMO as far as most mods go. Plus, I'm sure there are other changes made such as throttle response?

Any chance you guys (or anyone, Axiom?) have any dyno's of tunes to an N51? I'm having trouble finding out what to expect gains wise on an N51 because it already has the 3 Stage intake mani.

Thanks for sharing btw!

AWSB328iM · 04-26-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by atmosphericM

14 whp / 14 wtq
20 crank hp gain to about 250 crank hp (at least if BMW was publishing it)
7% gains

$650

Cool. Pricey, but hey, it's a BMW

All in all not a bad dollar per hp gain IMO as far as most mods go. Plus, I'm sure there are other changes made such as throttle response?

Any chance you guys (or anyone, Axiom?) have any dyno's of tunes to an N51? I'm having trouble finding out what to expect gains wise on an N51 because it already has the 3 Stage intake mani.

Thanks for sharing btw!

I thought the BPC tunes were $500 in house?

tlow98 · 04-26-2018, 12:12 PM

NIce gains on an auto n52!

atmosphericM · 04-26-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AWSB328iM

I thought the BPC tunes were $500 in house?

No idea. Their website says $650 but perhaps that's assuming the buyer is remote and so that price includes their flash tool? $500 in-house would be good news indeed... that's more in-line with the competition's price.

AWSB328iM · 04-26-2018, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by atmosphericM

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Originally Posted by AWSB328iM

I thought the BPC tunes were $500 in house?

No idea. Their website says $650 but perhaps that's assuming the buyer is remote and so that price includes their flash tool? $500 in-house would be good news indeed... that's more in-line with the competition's price.

That's what I understood was the in house was $500 and the tune plus software tool was $650.

The Nightman · 04-26-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

For this customer, we used an off the self tune since it was bone stock and we know its going to make great power

Thanks for sharing! Drivetrain losses aside, do automatics dyno lower then manuals due to the higher final drive ratio?

justpete · 04-26-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by freedomfries

Thanks for sharing! Drivetrain losses aside, do automatics dyno lower then manuals due to the higher final drive ratio?

Final ratio doesn't matter as dyno is looking at engine rpm and rear wheel rpm so it can remove whatever gear ratio there is in between.

hassmaschine · 04-26-2018, 11:14 PM

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Final ratio doesn't matter as dyno is looking at engine rpm and rear wheel rpm so it can remove whatever gear ratio there is in between.

Yep.

Friends don't let friends buy automatics.

BimmerNugget · 05-03-2018, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AWSB328iM

That's what I understood was the in house was $500 and the tune plus software tool was $650.

Phil@BPC Can you clarify this? I thought it was $650 and you mail in your ECU like what Active Autowerke does.

Taskmaster · 05-03-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerNugget

Phil@BPC Can you clarify this? I thought it was $650 and you mail in your ECU like what Active Autowerke does.

https://bimmerperformancecenter.com/...i-n51-n52-tune That may be with the USB and cable. You have to ask.

Eagle1oh7 · 05-03-2018, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freedomfries

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Originally Posted by Bob@BPC

For this customer, we used an off the self tune since it was bone stock and we know its going to make great power

Thanks for sharing! Drivetrain losses aside, do automatics dyno lower then manuals due to the higher final drive ratio?

Yes, it it's due to the torque converters not diff final drive ratio.

Phil@BPC · 05-04-2018, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AWSB328iM

That's what I understood was the in house was $500 and the tune plus software tool was $650.

The $500 price is if you bring your car to us to dyno tune and don't want the flash cable. If you purchase the tune online its $650 and that's including the flash cable. This is for the N52 Stage 1 tune.

BimmerNugget · 05-10-2018, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

The $500 price is if you bring your car to us to dyno tune and don't want the flash cable. If you purchase the tune online its $650 and that's including the flash cable. This is for the N52 Stage 1 tune.

Might be dumb question, but if I bring my car to get the tune in your shop the price is $500 and that includes both the tune and a free before and after dyno run with charts and stuff? I don't need the cable.

I've been looking to get a dyno run on my car to see how much power I'm actually making for my own curiosity. Thanks.

Phil@BPC · 05-10-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerNugget

Might be dumb question, but if I bring my car to get the tune in your shop the price is $500 and that includes both the tune and a free before and after dyno run with charts and stuff? I don't need the cable.

I've been looking to get a dyno run on my car to see how much power I'm actually making for my own curiosity. Thanks.

No dumb questions just questions that don't get asked

You are correct, the $500 would include the tune, before and after dyno runs and chart showing before and after numbers.

BimmerNugget · 05-10-2018, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil@BPC

No dumb questions just questions that don't get asked

You are correct, the $500 would include the tune, before and after dyno runs and chart showing before and after numbers.

Wow, Thank you! That's a terrific deal! People in my area charge $100+ for a dyno run alone.

Phil@BPC · 05-10-2018, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerNugget

Wow, Thank you! That's a terrific deal! People in my area charge $100+ for a dyno run alone.

I think that's what we charge too for three pulls. Since we already have the car strapped down and need to measure everything while tuning the car we like to offer doing a before and after. Although 8 times out of 10 most people dont want a before or after they just want to drive and enjoy their car.

CobraMarty · 05-10-2018, 02:34 PM

Are you in your new building?

Do you have a awd dyno?

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