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07-15-2014, 04:34 PM | #23 | |
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07-15-2014, 04:36 PM | #24 |
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These have the Enforcer cups installed as well. May have to rip and replace them regularly, wouldn't surprise me.
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07-15-2014, 04:55 PM | #26 | |
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Will have enough CAN channels to log a decent number of derived parameters as well, except for linear suspension pots and real time tire temp. Should be able to find out how well it runs once I get it to the track. Or not. I'm thinking the car will outdrive me for a good while...but then that's the point of all this really.
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07-15-2014, 06:07 PM | #27 |
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Stock and 3-stage dyno for reference. Finally found the original, and seriously lousy pics of the dyno plots. Sorry, best I got.
Stock with BMW PI and PE With PI and PE and AA 3-stage manifold specific tune These were run on the same tie-down back-to-back without adaptation other than during the pulls. Temp was mild, indoors, and data is uncorrected.
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07-15-2014, 10:55 PM | #29 |
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Interesting how the three stage hp curve drops to the same point as the non-stage-three manifold number at 4500rpm but takes off from there.
After the diff was installed and broken in we ran it again with the AA tune specifically for headers and the curves are exactly the same just down a little since it's a different run a month later, different tie-down, etc. Not a big difference, within tolerance of error anyway. They have a fresh drum of Sunoco 260 GT so if we can get the tank near empty we'll try it with some of that stuff and see if it makes any difference after running a baseline with the cat-delete tune on Shell 93. Doubt it'll be significant though but ya' never know.
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07-15-2014, 11:17 PM | #30 | |
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As for that dip, I was comparing it to the stock graph and it does make less power there than stock which is surprising. ST|G and Andry will probably rub it in my face that Evolve gained in that area hahaha! Last edited by Taskmaster; 07-19-2014 at 10:33 AM.. |
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07-15-2014, 11:23 PM | #31 | |
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The rpm point for the DISA motor actuation can't be moved in the MSV80 DME so an increase there would be something different with this DME. I did notice some adaptation over the several runs with the header tune and the hp did increase at 4500 but not a heckuva lot. I wonder if Evolve's figured out a way to shift DISA operating points. Has anyone ever compared AA and Evolve tunes on a single dyno tie-down?
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07-15-2014, 11:31 PM | #32 |
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Nope. But are you local to OE? They could probably do it. Who said the MSV80 can't control the DISA, the N51 engines come with the manifolds. Do you have a dyno and/or overlay of the header tune?
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07-15-2014, 11:38 PM | #33 | |
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It's not that it can't control it just that it can't shift the rpm actuation point like the msv70 could. I have the dyno of the header tune but not sure where, just have the pdf of the images. I did compare it point by point and it's the same, just lower a bit like I said. I'll look for it and see if I can post it up too. Thanks for the help.
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07-16-2014, 03:47 PM | #34 |
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Heard the engine run today with open headers. Didn't make a recording 'cuz the mic in my phone can't capture that much awesome.
Vibration is negligible, at idle anyway. Barely there resting hand on open door. My G35's armrest vibrates nearly as much at idle with the door closed. OK, maybe not quite that much but it's nowhere near obtrusive afaic. Surprising but relieved it isn't worse. Settled how to route the DASH3 cable to the console, where to mount the Safecraft fire suppression system bottle and the pull handle. And the location for the front struts' remote reservoirs is determined with them already mounted against the back of the bottom half of the cowling, the top piece is permanently removed now and Burger Tuning filters to be installed in openings. Very clean, very clever. Dang if everything new doesn't look like it was there coming from the factory.
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HPA Ultimate Clutch Pedal install:
Original HPA pedal Interestingly there wasn't an overcenter spring installed from the factory so there was nothing to install to one of the three anchor positions on the pedal bracket. Maybe it wasn't installed in the 2011 model, dunno. It was built in the last month of production though, maybe they ran out of 'em. Regardless, it feels a lot more solid than the plastic OE pedal.
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How do you like the 3.73 rear? I had 3.64s in mine until that rear end broke, and when they sent me a new one, I went with 3.38s as more of a compromise for highway driving. The 3.38s are still better than what it came with and make the car feel a lot more lively the 3.64s were really cool
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It's a Performance Gearing diff and we think it's a street version, hard to say as the man who spec'ed it isn't with us any longer but I know it's a 2-way 70% lockup and it's unquestionably progressive but I don't know the ramp angles or static lockup. I'm guessing it's a street spec'ed diff at the upper end of the available lock range. I really need to ping them and see if I can find out more. So far it's just been completely indestructible and I say that not because the engine is a monster, cuz it ain't, but mainly cuz I just abuse it too much with fast marginally poorly timed shifts. I really hate synchromesh transmissions. And they know it... Dang but that diff was expensive tho, maybe I should quit abusing it. Um, nah, that's half the fun. Right up till it's not. Maybe it'll give me an excuse to get it rebuilt as a street/track version. Highly highly recommended tho.
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Forgot to mention the trans is now running Redline MTL, that's new. The diff has always run Redline with friction modifiers.
And the pedals are all from Ultimate Pedals. Mounted with milspec screws and jet nuts on the brake and clutch pedals, stainless Type AB thread cutting screws (I think) for the throttle and dead pedals. All the chassis assembly has been done using Flexbar Rocksett ceramic adhesive threadlocker instead of Loctite, including the RE PRO wheel studs. fwiw
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And the data at http://bmwfans.info/parts-catalog yields the weight of the crank by subtracting that of the bearing shells and adding that of the sprocket, hub, and bolt. Assuming the crank weight ATI is looking for would include the hub, etc. Well, that was a whole lot easier...
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Oh yeah, last night. In a big hurry. I ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer I guess...but better late than never, huh?
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Yeah, that's about right, taken from OBDII rpm and GPS speed. Been driving with it since last August.
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