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01-22-2013, 10:15 PM | #859 | |
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01-22-2013, 10:18 PM | #860 |
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01-22-2013, 11:17 PM | #862 |
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I'd save the dough and get a used base C6 Grand Sport. Tons of power, Z16 and Z52 performance package standard. Many many aftermarket options.
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01-22-2013, 11:30 PM | #863 |
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01-22-2013, 11:31 PM | #864 |
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That's actually not a bad idea!
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01-24-2013, 02:35 PM | #865 |
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why is the vette out ? i think i missed something.
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01-24-2013, 04:10 PM | #867 |
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The C6 Z06 is out (LS7 engine) because of potential catastrophic valve issue. I can only afford a used one and no warranty is not an option, due to this issue. The ZR1 is not in my budget either. Which leaves the regular vette, which I agree could be an option, but if I need to mod those for brakes, suspension etc. it becomes less interesting, unless I get one for next to nothing.
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01-24-2013, 07:26 PM | #870 | |
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I would love it! Except it would start around 62k base + some track package (cooling, lsd, dry sump, larger rotors etc) easily 70k new, before tax. This is all great, but 2-3 years in you can get one for 50k or less. Best to buy used, but that would be 3 years away!
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So Z06 is track king: 2012 Z06 was only 2 seconds slower than a ZR1 on the Ring, where the latter has 135 hp more. Can we agree that it is impressively little difference over a 7'20" lap time? Same driver btw. Also ZR1 carries a $30k premium, new. You can get a used low mileage Z06 for $40-50k. Used ZR1 starts around 75k up to over $100k. But base vette with track option is an option I will contemplate, no hurry though. I figure there are a lot of those around
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01-24-2013, 08:04 PM | #871 |
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wtv u get remember to add a rollcage if you plan on getting buckets
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01-24-2013, 08:12 PM | #872 |
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Hello there. Went to dealer for some software update this morning. Saw a drop dead gorgeous 335xi MSport in Estoril blue. Absolutely great looking car.
Anyways, happy new year. Ken what is this I read about a track only car? If serious, have you considered a Lotus. They're not as powerful but handle like go carts and are cheaper than the more finicky handling Vette
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01-24-2013, 08:45 PM | #873 | |
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i still dont think there's a perfect track car that doesnt need extra service to keep it running well on the track. even race cars need an engine rebuild every now and then. if you want an all out track car that you dont need to do a single mod on, then i guess its time to go for a 911 Cup car, but then it wont be street legal. ZR1 is not a good choice for the track. its heavier and was designed more for straight line speed than for handling. also i would think a supercharged car would have more over heating issues on the track in the long run.
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um i would just like to add that the zr1 is currently the fastest street car to lap Laguna Seca...
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01-24-2013, 08:51 PM | #875 |
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i am not saying its not fast but i think being supercharged, it would probably be more prone to over heating if pushed on the track lap after lap. super charger also means more moving parts to go wrong. most GT track cars are naturally aspirated.
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100% agree - there are some supercharged m3s that are overheating too on track
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01-24-2013, 09:02 PM | #877 |
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superchargers are awesome for the street though. they would have zero issues on regular back road driving. and they'll make more low down torque so that'll be a big plus when launching the car on the street.
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Thing is as Chris mentions, it will carry much higher speed into entry of the next curve, therefore needs more braking and with more front weight bias, could even mean slower exit speed than a z06. So convinced the z06 won't be too far behind, while being easier to handle. Slower tracks may even give the z06 the advantage..... But to be clear, BOTH cars are pure animal on track, really I rode in a C5 vette once at Calabogie and that thing was like strapping an effing jet reactor to your ass!
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Ha ha! yes, I think the LS3 engine came in 2008 or 2009, I'll do some searches soon. 30k-40k would be great.
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